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re: Trump's Bergdahl tweet

Posted on 11/3/17 at 7:29 pm to
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 11/3/17 at 7:29 pm to
How so? Surely you aren't implying liberal judges would violate their duty to be impartial and deviate from their standard practice to spite the President. That would be something I assume would infuriate you. Why does it seem to be you celebrate it?
Posted by 10MTNTiger
Banks of the Guadalupe
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 11/3/17 at 8:26 pm to
As an initial matter I am extremely disappointed in the decision.

As a JAG I can understand where the MJ was coming from though. The DD is a severe punishment in itself. It destroys your future and forever brands you, it also strips away 100% of any benefit you would ever enjoy as a result of your service.

With that said, there used to be a time in America where that mattered, now half of the country embraces those like Bradley Manning as heroes. Mark my words, the left will embrace this traitor and lift him up, just wait, you have not seen the last of this nightmare. This is why the punishment today was unacceptable. It does nothing to put a price tag on this type of betrayal. Trump is 100% correct, this is unacceptable and I hope the judge realizes he gave himself a life sentence of regret as well. Especially once ole Bowe starts to get tuned up and lets us know how he really feels...which he will do as soon as his clemency and appellate review are complete in a few months.
Posted by MrLarson
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 11/3/17 at 8:35 pm to
Bernie/Bowe 2020 a liberals wet dream
Posted by Wolfhound45
Hanging with Chicken in Lurkistan
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Posted on 11/3/17 at 9:21 pm to
Double post.
This post was edited on 11/3/17 at 9:31 pm
Posted by Wolfhound45
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Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 11/3/17 at 9:30 pm to
quote:

As a JAG
Thanks for your expert thoughts and insights. I have a procedural question. As the convening authority, does LTG Buchanan have to abide by the ruling of the court? Can he reject the ruling and render his own judgement?
Posted by Crimson1st
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2010
20258 posts
Posted on 11/3/17 at 9:32 pm to
Well i think one thing that is lost on Benedictdahl is that not only does he have a lot of casualties tallied up trying to locate his sorry arse but also any one else killed directly or indirectly from these 5 terrorist scum Obama released for him should count into the mix as well.

Ya know, I gotta just reiterate how fricking stupid Obama was in this deal...in the Iran deal...Benghazi...Fast and Furious...the sewer of unacceptable bs he let flow through his tenure is staggering yet his butt boy shill cult following to this day will hop on here and defend him. Nauseating and infuriating.
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 11/3/17 at 9:35 pm to
5 up votes.
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
35626 posts
Posted on 11/3/17 at 9:44 pm to
quote:

Sgt. Bergdahl is grateful to everyone who searched for him in 2009, especially those who heroically sustained injuries."


They keep just repeating injuries to hide this sordid affair from the public.
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
35626 posts
Posted on 11/3/17 at 9:46 pm to
quote:

The 31-year-old soldier from Hailey, Idaho, was brought home by President Barack Obama in 2014 in a swap for five Taliban prisoners at Guantanamo Bay. Obama said at the time that the U.S. does not leave its service members on the battlefield.


And bullshite.

America has left behind service members tons of times...Vietnam, Korea???? Ring a bell.

Obama loved this guy because he rejected his US duty and ran into the arms of Muslims.

If this guy had left his post to go kill Muslims, he ain't coming home.
Posted by Crimson1st
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 11/3/17 at 11:17 pm to
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5 up votes.


Posted by 10MTNTiger
Banks of the Guadalupe
Member since Sep 2012
4139 posts
Posted on 11/4/17 at 4:42 am to
quote:

Thanks for your expert thoughts and insights. I have a procedural question. As the convening authority, does LTG Buchanan have to abide by the ruling of the court? Can he reject the ruling and render his own judgement?



I hate being a JAG, I was an intel guy that believed the hype and thought I needed to go to law school to be successful in life...what a dumbass.

To answer your question though, the CA does have to "take actions on the result of trial" which is covered under Article 60 of the UCMJ. Typically this will only involve a CA invalidating a portion of a sentence, the opposite of the situation we have here.

There was a case in 2010 that said a CA is authorized to modify the findings and sentence of a court-martial as a matter of command prerogative involving the sole discretion of the CA; when taking action on the results of trial, the convening authority may order a rehearing as to some or all offenses of which findings of guilty were entered and the sentence, or as to sentence only.

The thing you have to remember is the politics at play. It would be a HUGE deal if the CA ordered, essentially, a redo. I highly doubt that it would withstand a constitutional challenge as double jeopardy as well, if the sole basis was the sentence was too light.

I am 100% positive that the CA will approve the sentence and this will go away.
Posted by Lutcher Lad
South of the Mason-Dixon Line
Member since Sep 2009
5792 posts
Posted on 11/4/17 at 7:05 am to
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I havent served, but that means nothing to this discussion.


Right you are...whether you served or not does not deny you the right to your opinion, but if you have served or if you are currently serving in a branch of the military you would have a better understanding of "the brotherhood" that exists within your squad, company, platoon, etc. That is what makes Berdahl's actions so vile to us. He states that he left his post to go and complain about how things were being run, that's bullshite. He left either because he was a coward or because he thought his chances at survival was better with the terrorists. And Obama hailed this MF as a hero! At the least he should be given 30 years at Levensworth.
Posted by Wolfhound45
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Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 11/4/17 at 7:51 am to
Thanks brother!
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
35009 posts
Posted on 11/4/17 at 7:56 am to
Trump should be careful on this one; because if some burdened Vet does what Bergdahl did and takes Him (Bergdahl) out...you just know what the MSM will do with it.
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