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re: Trump was right after all about the Obama administration wiretaps | TheHill

Posted on 3/25/17 at 10:59 am to
Posted by TT9
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Posted on 3/25/17 at 10:59 am to
God you're a fricking idiot.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 3/25/17 at 11:00 am to
I think it will reach people like Iosh, in this context. But then again we know they GET IT, they just like to be anti-Trump- PERIOD.

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Now, Rep. Devin Nunes (R-Calif.), chairman of the House Intelligence Committee (who previously said he knew of no evidence to support the allegation) has disclosed that he has seen evidence that Trump presidential transition officials had their communications monitored during the Obama administration (though Nunes later suggested that he might not have actually seen the evidence of the surveillance).

He also said that the inadvertent interceptions were then subject to “unmasking” where intelligence officials actively and knowingly attached the names of the parties to transcripts and then circulated the information widely within the intelligence community. If true, that would clearly support a part of the president’s allegations and raise very serious questions about the improper use of surveillance. It would be Trump’s ultimate “redrum” moment.

Yet, when this disclosure was made by the chair of the House Intelligence Committee, CNN and other news outlets immediately proclaimed that it did not prove anything about the Trump allegations — again emphasizing that he said Obama “wiretapped” Trump’s phone. That is like saying that an alleged victim is not to be believed because he said that some “second story man broke into my home” when the evidence showed that there was no second story on the house and the burglar entered through an open window. The point is whether Trump campaign staff were subject to surveillance under the Obama administration.

Of course, the original tweets were poorly worded and inappropriate as a way for a president to raise this issue. Moreover, the inadvertent surveillance is rightfully distinguished from the original suggestion of a targeting of Trump. However, this would still be a very serious matter if intelligence officials acted to unmask the names and distribute them. The masking of names is meant to protect innocent people from such inadvertent interception as part of the minimization procedures in the surveillance area.

The White House appears unwilling to address the exaggeration and unfairness of the original allegation, while most of the media seems entirely unwilling to admit that there might indeed be an alarming abuse of surveillance rules.

In the end, I suppose our Shining sequel is even more scary than the original because you cannot entirely trust anyone in the Beltway Hotel. It is nothing but jump scares and creepy moments. Citizens are left running in the maze with Danny yelling that in this game “the Loser has to keep America clean.” Redrum.
Posted by LSUTigersVCURams
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Posted on 3/25/17 at 11:00 am to
TRUMP
Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 3/25/17 at 11:07 am to
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If the obama administration was sucking up legal method sof surveillance, then unmasking US citizens, then spreading their findings with the media and throughout the government then this is a big fricking deal. If that is what happened some heads are gonna roll.


It's exactly what happened. Does it really surprise you? Obama was one of the most autocratic presidents in history. He despised leakers, he spied on journalists, he sicked the IRS on the Tea Party, etc. Are we to think he is above spying on an opposition presidential campaign?
Posted by TigersFan64
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Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 3/25/17 at 11:09 am to


Doesn't even remotely come close to what Trump accused President Obama of doing. You're just grasping at straws.
Posted by cajunangelle
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Posted on 3/25/17 at 11:13 am to
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It's exactly what happened. Does it really surprise you? Obama was one of the most autocratic presidents in history. He despised leakers, he spied on journalists, he sicked the IRS on the Tea Party, etc. Are we to think he is above spying on an opposition presidential campaign?

Don't forget he also spied on Congress, Israel, tried to rig their election, Merkel. Feinstein was pissed when she found out. I loved the fact that James Rosen broke the smoking gun story. Sweet justice.
Posted by OTIS2
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Posted on 3/25/17 at 11:14 am to
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BayouBlitz
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Keep drinking the Kool-Aid
Posted by OTIS2
NoLA
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Posted on 3/25/17 at 11:14 am to
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TigersFan64
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You're just gasping
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
43372 posts
Posted on 3/25/17 at 11:15 am to
Great post, Angelle.

In order for us to defeat this abuse of power; we must understand where and how it comes from.

Keep on posting more information so that other patriots may share!
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 3/25/17 at 11:16 am to
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It's not against the law to call Russia you fricking moron.
No, but if you have access to top secret information and are involved in regular conversations with Russia, you should expect someone to be listening in.
Posted by CptBengal
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Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 3/25/17 at 11:17 am to
The prog loser argument is that although we know he was under illegal surveillance...

The tweet wasn't accurate enough.

Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 3/25/17 at 11:18 am to
Lulz muh Russians
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
43372 posts
Posted on 3/25/17 at 11:19 am to
Oh yeah. The further you dig the hole; the more literal you become.

They are directly proportional
This post was edited on 3/25/17 at 11:20 am
Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 3/25/17 at 11:20 am to

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I loved the fact that James Rosen broke the smoking gun story. Sweet justice.


Yes. Rosen can now do real journalism without looking over his shoulder worrying when he's going to get a shot of polonium slid into his coffee.
Posted by a want
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Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 3/25/17 at 11:22 am to
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1) Still no evidence. This shite article is spin, as any idiot can see.

2) If Trump meant "surveliiance", why didn't he say "surveillance"? Oh yeah, we can't take Trump literally. The most important office in the world, and we can't take him literally.

Also: he specifically said the Obama Admin. did it. Trump apologists are conveniently forgetting about that part of Trump's tweet.
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 3/25/17 at 11:24 am to
He said "wiretapping" and all that
Posted by GregMaddux
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Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 3/25/17 at 11:25 am to
We still have to argue over the semantics of this bullshite.

Trump Wrong bc he said wiretapping. fricking liberals man. frick em
This post was edited on 3/25/17 at 11:28 am
Posted by PygmalionEffect
Member since Jul 2012
4834 posts
Posted on 3/25/17 at 11:25 am to
And conveniently accusing Obama of being a sick or bad man, implying that Obama did it illegally and committed a felony.

Sitting president accusing his predecessor of committing a felony with no evidence at all, except words from a right wing conspiracy article.

Posted by wfallstiger
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Member since Jun 2006
14759 posts
Posted on 3/25/17 at 11:28 am to
You hadn't seen that thug and his rats much lately....like a choir of crickets...that's an indictment right there as those Left fackers never STHU
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
162916 posts
Posted on 3/25/17 at 11:28 am to
Remember back when you tried to fool this board that were an independent?
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