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Trump wants to get rid of Scientology tax exempt status
Posted on 11/10/17 at 7:48 am
Posted on 11/10/17 at 7:48 am
Posted on 11/10/17 at 7:50 am to Ham Solo
needs to get rid of it for all religions.
Posted on 11/10/17 at 7:51 am to Ham Solo
Germans
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But since his thread is titled better:
Because they are non-profits. Plain and simple. If you want to get rid of tax-exempt status for religions, then you must do so for all non-profits accordingly. Otherwise you are simply a commie who hates organized religion and wants to beat them down.
Religious institutions and churches are the foundation of American exceptionalism. They started some of our first schools, hospitals, and outreach programs. They helped preserve wildlife and parks before the government helped. Without them, you'd lose over half of hospitals in the country. Thus disrupting a system already stretched very thin.
These churches provide food banks, help build houses, supply free volunteer labor, etc. Also, many of their parishioners are good citizens.
Then one of the biggest reasons: these Churches are funded and fueled by parishioners who are already taxed! The money a person donates to a Relgion/church has been taxed via income taxes and property taxes. What they donate, is what hey have left. There isn't some goal to launder money. All that religious people want to do is donate so they can worship somewhere and for the large majority, do good works. To tax on top of that is nonsensical.
Too many crooks hide behind Government. And that is the only entity that would benefit. That money would not go to the citizens, nor to helping them.
If you support taxing non-profits, that is the end of the American charity system.
If you support taxing non-profits, that grows Big Governemnt. Government will have to take the place of the charities it destroyed. It will have to take over all the hospitals. It will have to find a spot for all the students in its shitty schools. It'll have to fund Habitat for Humanity, Meals on Wheels, etc.
If you support taxing non-profits, you are a big government commie who thinks Governemnt is the solution to all of our problems.
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But since his thread is titled better:
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I never understood why any religion should get tax exempt status.
Because they are non-profits. Plain and simple. If you want to get rid of tax-exempt status for religions, then you must do so for all non-profits accordingly. Otherwise you are simply a commie who hates organized religion and wants to beat them down.
Religious institutions and churches are the foundation of American exceptionalism. They started some of our first schools, hospitals, and outreach programs. They helped preserve wildlife and parks before the government helped. Without them, you'd lose over half of hospitals in the country. Thus disrupting a system already stretched very thin.
These churches provide food banks, help build houses, supply free volunteer labor, etc. Also, many of their parishioners are good citizens.
Then one of the biggest reasons: these Churches are funded and fueled by parishioners who are already taxed! The money a person donates to a Relgion/church has been taxed via income taxes and property taxes. What they donate, is what hey have left. There isn't some goal to launder money. All that religious people want to do is donate so they can worship somewhere and for the large majority, do good works. To tax on top of that is nonsensical.
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They all need to pay taxes. Too many crooks hide behind religion.
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Should remove every non-profit's tax exempt status.
Too many crooks hide behind Government. And that is the only entity that would benefit. That money would not go to the citizens, nor to helping them.
If you support taxing non-profits, that is the end of the American charity system.
If you support taxing non-profits, that grows Big Governemnt. Government will have to take the place of the charities it destroyed. It will have to take over all the hospitals. It will have to find a spot for all the students in its shitty schools. It'll have to fund Habitat for Humanity, Meals on Wheels, etc.
If you support taxing non-profits, you are a big government commie who thinks Governemnt is the solution to all of our problems.
This post was edited on 11/10/17 at 8:09 am
Posted on 11/10/17 at 7:51 am to Ham Solo
My god...
Someone is finally willing to take these guys on? Finally?
Trump you are the greatest. Maybe the greatest ever President.
Even if you fail at building the wall, America turns into Brazil, take these punks out and you've done something good at least.
Someone is finally willing to take these guys on? Finally?
Trump you are the greatest. Maybe the greatest ever President.
Even if you fail at building the wall, America turns into Brazil, take these punks out and you've done something good at least.
Posted on 11/10/17 at 7:51 am to TigerB8
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needs to get rid of it for all religions.
I'm ok with this as long as all other non-profits lose their status as well.
Posted on 11/10/17 at 7:52 am to TigerB8
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needs to get rid of it for all religions.
Posted on 11/10/17 at 7:53 am to Ham Solo
Good.
Now lets see if he actually does it.
Now lets see if he actually does it.
Posted on 11/10/17 at 7:54 am to Centinel
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I'm ok with this as long as all other non-profits lose their status as well.
Absolutely. Non-profit is one of the biggest shams and most abused loopholes in this country.
Posted on 11/10/17 at 7:55 am to TigerB8
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needs to get rid of it for all religions.
Yes! Let's get a piece of all those profits these thousands of little churches generate. Nothing but tax havens for the rich.
It's silly that we are the most generous country on Earth (by a mile), that so much of that goes to churches, and the government is not getting a piece of the action.
Bunch of idiots.
This post was edited on 11/10/17 at 8:00 am
Posted on 11/10/17 at 7:56 am to Ham Solo
This must be a new rule.
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“For the White House or any administration official to try and influence who the IRS targets, for whatever reason, is wrong and could result in a violation of the law,” said former general counsel of the Federal Election Commission Larry Noble. “The IRS must make these decisions independently without any influence by the White House or administration officials.”
Posted on 11/10/17 at 8:01 am to autauga
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This must be a new rule.
DOesnt even apply here. That rule is speaking of Administrative targeting of groups, like Obama did when he had the IRS target conservative groups.
What Trump is talking about is changing the federal tax LAW which obviously the POTUS can do.
The IRS can NOT independently take away the tax exempt status of The Church of Scientology.
Posted on 11/10/17 at 8:15 am to Ag Zwin
I'm a believer that churches should pay the local real estate taxes that support infrastructure. Not school taxes, but only that portion that supports the creation and maintenance of utilities, roads, bridges, etc.. that allow them to operate. Otherwise, they are piggybacking on the taxes paid by everyone else.
Posted on 11/10/17 at 8:18 am to HubbaBubba
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Otherwise, they are piggybacking on the taxes paid by everyone else.
Wrong. Churches are funded by donations that come from citizens who have already been taxed. That's double taxation
Posted on 11/10/17 at 8:20 am to HubbaBubba
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I'm a believer that churches should pay the local real estate taxes that support infrastructure. Not school taxes, but only that portion that supports the creation and maintenance of utilities, roads, bridges, etc.. that allow them to operate. Otherwise, they are piggybacking on the taxes paid by everyone else.
Do non-profits currently have to do this? If not, do you think they should as well?
Posted on 11/10/17 at 8:20 am to Ham Solo
I will leave this interesting little read here...
The darkness will be rooted out...
village voice
The darkness will be rooted out...
village voice
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Scientology and the Occult: Hugh Urban’s New Exploration of L. Ron Hubbard and Aleister Crowley
by TONY ORTEGA
FEBRUARY 22, 2012
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Longtime Scientology watchers will be at least somewhat familiar with the tale: that after his involvement in WWII, Hubbard shacked up with Jet Propulsion Lab rocket scientist Jack Parsons, a man heavily into the occult, and in particular the teachings of The Great Beast, British occultist Aleister Crowley. You may even know something about the kinky things Parsons and Hubbard did trying to create a “Moonchild.” But what Urban does in a new piece for the journal Nova Religio is produce a thorough, academic study of the ways that Crowley’s “magick” found parallels in what would become Hubbard’s most famous creation, Scientology.
Posted on 11/10/17 at 8:24 am to Ag Zwin
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Yes! Let's get a piece of all those profits these thousands of little churches generate. Nothing but tax havens for the rich.
It's silly that we are the most generous country on Earth (by a mile), that so much of that goes to churches, and the government is not getting a piece of the action.
Bunch of idiots.
Yeah, I totally agree that Churches like the one run by Cam Newton's father should get tax exemption. Please. Ministers and Rabbis are just as crooked as everyone else.
Posted on 11/10/17 at 8:26 am to Tiger in NY
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Yeah, I totally agree that Churches like the one run by Cam Newton's father should get tax exemption. Please. Ministers and Rabbis are just as crooked as everyone else.
Same with non-profit CEOs. Which is why non-profits should also lose their tax exempt status.
Posted on 11/10/17 at 8:26 am to Jackalope
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Wrong. Churches are funded by donations that come from citizens who have already been taxed. That's double taxation
By this definition, so is every single business in the U.S. that people use their disposable income at.
Posted on 11/10/17 at 8:27 am to TigerB8
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needs to get rid of it for all religions.
Needs to get rid of it for everyone. Why should any be exempt?
Posted on 11/10/17 at 8:27 am to Jackalope
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Wrong. Churches are funded by donations that come from citizens who have already been taxed. That's double taxation
Ummm....
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