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re: Trump wants to cut regulations on home builders to cut costs

Posted on 9/5/24 at 10:43 pm to
Posted by Wishnitwas1998
where TN, MS, and AL meet
Member since Oct 2010
63768 posts
Posted on 9/5/24 at 10:43 pm to
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quote: So you'll only make 20% on your home instead of 40%. Yea, frick peoples’ largest investment.


So what do you propose genius? People either get fricked by not making quite as much or people get fricked by not being able to afford a home and paying rent their whole lives

I'm not even saying one way is right or wrong but reality is somebody is getting fricked one way or the other. It happens

This issue, by the way, is why we end up just printing money and pretending to solve problems rather than actually solving them bc our politicians both R and D don't have the stomach to make tough choices to they try to keep from fricking over anybody which isn't possible

Plus by printing money somebody still gets fricked it's just everyone and futher in the future
This post was edited on 9/5/24 at 10:45 pm
Posted by rwestmore7
Member since Nov 2007
842 posts
Posted on 9/5/24 at 10:46 pm to
Don’t want Donnie to give his buddies the big fat contracts?
Posted by LStU
Member since Jan 2012
505 posts
Posted on 9/5/24 at 11:23 pm to
Most housing regulations are local/state, not federal. Need more info on this to actually understand the potential impacts.
Posted by LStU
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 9/5/24 at 11:25 pm to
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What home building regulations are federal?


Exactly. I'm in this industry and the supermajority of building codes are not federal. Floodplain regulations from the NFIP are the only thing that comes to mind immediately.
This post was edited on 9/5/24 at 11:26 pm
Posted by THRILLHO
Metry, LA
Member since Apr 2006
50205 posts
Posted on 9/6/24 at 12:25 am to
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Exactly. I'm in this industry and the supermajority of building codes are not federal. Floodplain regulations from the NFIP are the only thing that comes to mind immediately.



I know that the new energy code (IECC) is "locally mandated", but not really. The Fedgov threatened to withhold funds from states if they didn't start enforcing the newest version of the IECC, which is much more stringent than ~8 years ago. Specifically, for Louisiana, FEMA funds were going to be withheld if we didn't adopt the new code.

That's just one regulation that could be rolled back to help with housing costs, but it would be up to individual states on whether or not they wanted to roll it back. Or he could get ballsy and start withholding federal funds from states that don't ease energy code regulations.

I suspect that there are other construction regulations that the Fedgov is pressuring states to enforce. He could also ease regulations/taxes on "upstream" producers (companies that produce lumber, steel, HVAC equipment, electrical equipment, etc). The 30-40% number is unrealistic, but 5-15% is probably doable, especially for the states that agree to ease regulations that the Feds no longer care about.

Posted by THRILLHO
Metry, LA
Member since Apr 2006
50205 posts
Posted on 9/6/24 at 1:00 am to
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People either get fricked by not making quite as much or people get fricked by not being able to afford a home and paying rent their whole lives


Owning a home has always been a big part of the "American dream". It can't be as out-of-reach for so many people as it is now. We need to lower home costs. And that's coming from someone that bought around the housing peak (though with sub 4% interest) and could be underwater if this happens.

In my opinion, the best ways to fix this:
-limits on how many single family homes investment firms can own. I'd focus almost entirely on how many existing homes/properties they can own. These firms buying up rural land and building new rental properties isn't a big deal, but buying existing homes in established neighborhoods and converting them to rentals is. This is one of my very few fiscal policies that I could be considered a "leftist" on, though I don't know of any democrat politicians calling for this (because they're all bought and paid for).
-deport the ~25 million illegals living in this country. I get that they typically pack themselves into places (like squeezing 10 in a 3 bedroom rental), but that would free up a significant amount of inventory in fairly cheap areas. Lowering costs of cheaper homes will have a "trickle up" effect and lower costs of middle and upper-middle class homes.
-ease construction regulations. As previously discussed, state/local governments need to help out here.

The worst ways to fix this:
-print money and give it to homebuyers so that they can "better afford" homes. This will help a limited number of people in terms of affordability. It WILL increase the wealth of people/firms that own multiple homes, and increase the taxes/insurance of current homeowners.

Posted by Colonel Flagg
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
23391 posts
Posted on 9/6/24 at 5:28 am to
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No. Home buyers shop in a price range based on what they can afford. If new home prices come down, buyers will stay in their budgets and buy bigger homes or in better area.


It’s the American Way!

Posted by AUWDE
Member since Oct 2013
3524 posts
Posted on 9/6/24 at 5:45 am to
Builders price to their margins and market conditions.

If regulations are cut and the market can sustain you are not going to see builders suddenly slash their prices….they will just increase their profit and/or include more amenities in the homes to attract more buyers.

Posted by Tarps99
Lafourche Parish
Member since Apr 2017
11617 posts
Posted on 9/6/24 at 5:49 am to
Sounds like good idea, but could we be left with a bunch of uninsurable houses in the coastal zone if regulations on building codes are rolled back.

One thing that could help right now with homeownership in the south and west is to do something with primary homeowners insurance. One idea that I have is to either expand the FEMA flood insurance program to cover catastrophic events and tie coverage to post FEMA grants. Or get FEMA out of the insurance business and tell carriers write policies everywhere for flood, fire, and wind with uniform rates, and a federal program with participating carriers will back stop losses after a certain threshold.


The goal is to get insurance affordable again.


Make
Insurance
Great
Again
This post was edited on 9/6/24 at 5:52 am
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
Team Bitter Clinger
Member since May 2020
23620 posts
Posted on 9/6/24 at 6:08 am to
Abolishing OSHA would be a good start.

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