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re: Trump to discuss NATO withdrawal
Posted on 4/8/26 at 3:16 pm to RelicBatches86
Posted on 4/8/26 at 3:16 pm to RelicBatches86
Even if don't leave, can "quiet quit" 
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Posted on 4/8/26 at 3:17 pm to AlterEd
quote:All true. But people having strong opinions on things they don’t even understand at a basic level is pretty much standard operating procedure around here.
The US isn't going to do this. This idea of the US "paying for NATO" is a misnomer. We don't give any money to any organization called "NATO." The money is monies used in each respective nation's own national defense. And there is zero chance the US stops funding its own self defense.
What they can do, however, should and probably WILL do, is pull our troops out of all European bases. They won't like that at all, because whether they want to admit it or not, having US troops stationed on their soil keeps them safe.
Posted on 4/8/26 at 3:20 pm to medium_okra
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North Atlantic, brother
He’s riffing on the journalist that recently called them that
Posted on 4/8/26 at 3:20 pm to medium_okra
quote:I thought he might be making a joke.
North Atlantic, brother
Posted on 4/8/26 at 3:21 pm to PaperTiger
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If it doesn't happen under Trump it never will.
President JD Vance will do it.
Posted on 4/8/26 at 3:24 pm to northshorebamaman
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All true
Only partly true.
There is a direct common fund that we contribute roughly 500-700 million per year to. This is outside of our own defense budget. That used to be higher until Trump negotiated the percentage from 22% down to 16% in 2019.
We also fund 40% of the costs for an AWACS program under NATO.
Posted on 4/8/26 at 3:28 pm to weptiger
Why does their style of governance and/or economic policy matter to you? If that’s what the people want, more power to them. Europeans are generally happier with their government and life in general than Americans. They’re healthier and live longer as well. That “socialism” seems to be working quite well for them.
Posted on 4/8/26 at 3:29 pm to phaz
Sure
Posted on 4/8/26 at 3:33 pm to phaz
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Phaz
Spaz?
Posted on 4/8/26 at 3:36 pm to Indefatigable
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No chance, and no one should want it. Nothing gets better, easier, or less expensive if we leave NATO.
Hes done with everyone not paying their share. His talking about this is the leverage he needs to get them to do right. He'll get congress to agree to vote at a later time should other countries not live up to obligation
Posted on 4/8/26 at 3:40 pm to phaz
Let Europe defend Europe and European interests
Posted on 4/8/26 at 3:43 pm to phaz
It's decades overdue.
Posted on 4/8/26 at 3:44 pm to uziyourillusion
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If that’s what the people want, more power to them.
Their quasi-socialist leaders are "elected" the same way most of our career politicians are... in that they are compliant puppets installed by controlling interests.
Posted on 4/8/26 at 3:51 pm to phaz
Has the US ever had to come to the aid of another NATO country? I know they've assisted us before.
Either way, I'm sure Europe can survive 3 more years.
Either way, I'm sure Europe can survive 3 more years.
Posted on 4/8/26 at 3:52 pm to Indefatigable
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Why would we stop funding our own military? That is, after all, what people refer to as "NATO funding"--the amount that each member spends on its own military.
There are some post you just have to ignore. It'll make your head hurt.
Posted on 4/8/26 at 3:59 pm to JellyRoll
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Only partly true.
Right. But this is nothing. This is less than .1% of our GDP. I mean, I guess he could stop giving to the common fund, but that amount wouldn't even cause the other NATO countries to bat an eye.
This post was edited on 4/8/26 at 4:01 pm
Posted on 4/8/26 at 4:03 pm to AlterEd
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I guess he could stop giving to the common fund
Until he's sued and forced to resume payment by the courts.
Posted on 4/8/26 at 4:04 pm to phaz
It needs to happen just to show Europe how fricked they are without our military to protect them.
Posted on 4/8/26 at 4:08 pm to ATrillionaire
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Until he's sued and forced to resume payment by the courts.
Right. It's not going to happen. He can't just pull us out of NATO. But he can bring our troops home from European bases. Which, imo, would be just as good. And he can also say that he won't send any troops to their defense should Article 5 be evoked.
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