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Posted on 12/11/21 at 12:19 pm to McLemore
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I wouldn't call Bibi unhinged. More just a self-loathing international cuckold who talks a big game.
He sounds like your average Republican in Congress.
Posted on 12/11/21 at 12:40 pm to TigerAxeOK
I'm from Israel and I'll say this: doesn't matter whose in charge over here, Israel plays the US like a fiddle.
Most of my friends and relatives back home consider US elections inconsequential.
Most of my friends and relatives back home consider US elections inconsequential.
Posted on 12/11/21 at 12:46 pm to Bass Tiger
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And Trump’s general loathing of politics is why typical politicians don’t like Trump…..Trump’s all about business with politics taking a back seat….basically Trump’s not into the two faced, back stabbing political BS and that makes him very unpopular amongst career politicians.
Agreed. It’s one of the things that I like about him and I will have no issues voting for him again if he does run and get the nomination. But it’s also one of his bigger problems with many voters. Trump is a known commodity for better or worse. It’s also one of the reasons why I think DeSantis is the better option for 2024. DeSantis can still shape opinions about himself and his policies will be in line with Trump. It’s a win-win to me.
Posted on 12/11/21 at 12:56 pm to arp0925
Mr Trump needs to side with Palestine. They will show him loyalty 
Posted on 12/11/21 at 12:57 pm to jonnyanony
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I'm from Israel and I'll say this: doesn't matter whose in charge over here, Israel plays the US like a fiddle. Most of my friends and relatives back home consider US elections inconsequential.
100%. I have no hatred towards the Israeli people at all, but their govt, and the extremely pro-Zionists here absolutely run the show. Doesn’t matter who is in charge, they get what they need
This post was edited on 12/11/21 at 12:58 pm
Posted on 12/11/21 at 1:02 pm to TigerAxeOK
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Dims already wish Israel would be wiped off the face of the earth
Only the black and brown ones. White and Jewish Dems are slavishly loyal to Israel. And they still run the party.
Posted on 12/11/21 at 1:30 pm to Old Money
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Mr Trump needs to side with Palestine.
I despise Israel and the influence they have over our foreign policy, but Trump needs to side with America. Stay the hell out of that conflict and that region of the world. Frick Israel and frick Palestine. Not an American penny is worth that fight.
Posted on 12/11/21 at 1:42 pm to SCLibertarian
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Stay the hell out of that conflict and that region of the world. Frick Israel and frick Palestine.
We won't though. Trump listened to Bibi and Bolton who wanted war in Iran and made a strategic error tearing up the JCPOA. If the Israelis want regime change, they should expend their own men to do it. Our military is just fodder to the Israelis.
This post was edited on 12/11/21 at 1:43 pm
Posted on 12/11/21 at 2:02 pm to coolhand2
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the Viet Nam war death tole on ethnic Americans who died in that war...99% poor ignorant white boys..hardly any jews or blacks
Source? Demographically speaking I would imagine it wasn't 99%white. I would imagine black/Hispanic death tole was as much as their percentage make up of the country at the time if not more.
Posted on 12/11/21 at 2:10 pm to coolhand2
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Trump still does not seem get the big picture. "They" don't give a flip about the USA...none of them! They care only about themselves and their tribe! The USA is expendable if and when it is necessary!!!!!!!!!!!!
You don’t if Trump gets the “big picture” of not.
Here is what I propose happened:
Israel is a treasure trove for info
That info is tied to the relationship between the two nations
That includes $$$ (iron dome etc.)
Bibi acted as though he and Trump were aligned (think moving the embassy to Jerusalem) only yo follow up with being the first in line to blow “the big guy.”
This was more than political posturing imho. Bibi went full on bitch, and Trump called him out. Bibi could have waited things out a tad and then gone through the political protocols of congratulating the usurper. It isn’t as though the Biden regime was going to be swayed. His ilk hates Israel. So to follow up on Trump...frick Bibi.
Posted on 12/11/21 at 2:13 pm to coolhand2
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African Americans suffered disproportionately high casualty rates in Vietnam. In 1965 alone they comprised 14.1% of total combat deaths, when they only comprised approximately 11% of the total U.S. population in the same year.[
Since you are to lazy to back up your claim, here is a source for the above quote.
LINK
Also this...
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In October 1966, Defense Secretary Robert McNamara initiated Project 100,000 which further lowered military standards for 100,000 additional draftees per year. McNamara claimed this program would provide valuable training, skills and opportunity to America's poor—a promise that was never carried out. Many black men who had previously been ineligible could now be drafted, along with many poor and racially intolerant white men from the southern states. This led to increased racial tension in the military.
Working-Class War: American Combat Soldiers & Vietnam; Appy, Christian; University of North Carolina Press; 2003; pp. 31–33
Posted on 12/11/21 at 5:23 pm to jimmy the leg
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Israel is a treasure trove for info
Israel’s, technology industry, was built on the wholesale theft of American secrets. And what they take, they sell, without a moments hesitation, to our enemies.
That’s what they tasked Pollard with.
He was given a shopping list of things the Soviets would find interesting.
And then Israel sold those secrets to the Soviets.
They’ve done the same thing with China.
Israel is a hostile nation, and a threat to American security.
This post was edited on 12/11/21 at 5:58 pm
Posted on 12/12/21 at 10:44 am to Lima Whiskey
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Israel’s, technology industry, was built on the wholesale theft of American secrets. And what they take, they sell, without a moments hesitation, to our enemies. That’s what they tasked Pollard with. He was given a shopping list of things the Soviets would find interesting. And then Israel sold those secrets to the Soviets. They’ve done the same thing with China. Israel is a hostile nation, and a threat to American security.
The USS Liberty is a prime example of what you say. As such, there is no reason to blindly trust Israel.
However, in the moments where our interest align with theirs, they are a treasure trove of information.
In the very least, this may be a case of keeping your enemies closer.
Or, it may be similar to the philosophy attributed to the powerful Roman Senator Grachus: “If a criminal has what you need...you do business with them.”
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