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Trump signaled to extremist groups on Jan. 6 according to "expert" testifying in Colorado

Posted on 10/31/23 at 3:33 pm
Posted by jatilen
Member since May 2020
13608 posts
Posted on 10/31/23 at 3:33 pm
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Attorney Eric Olson, representing the plaintiffs, relied on expert testimony from an extremism expert during the second day of a trial that centers on whether Trump should be disqualified from running for president in the state, citing the 14th Amendment of the Constitution.

Chapman University professor Pete Simi, who studies political violence and extremism, argued that Trump cultivated a far-right following for years even before running for president, creating a relationship he took advantage of in his attempts to overturn his 2020 election loss. He said he was “very confident” that Trump led the events of Jan. 6.

“From my years of studying how far-right extremists perceive communication, the relationship that they developed with Donald Trump over multiple years, the various signals … promoting or endorsing violence, things done over social media … that aligned with many of the things that Trump said over the years,” Simi said.

“That relationship that was established and built, I think, really underscores how much influence he has for far-right extremists, and how much they perceive him as essentially one on their side or one of them,” he continued.

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Under cross-examination, Simi was asked if Trump had any intent to signal to the extremist groups.

“I can say he expressed a consistent pattern of messages over time that encouraged violence. He expressed messages over time that endorsed violence. And that’s very, I think in clear terms, part of this pattern,” he responded.

One question that the trial will likely center on is whether Trump was aware of or intentionally signaled to the far-right extremists to be violent or attempt to overturn the election violently. Simi believes the former president was aware.

“Seems pretty pretty clear to me,” Simi said. “I mean, I’m not in Donald Trump’s mind, obviously, but in terms of observable patterns, in terms of the repeated nature of the things we’ve been discussing, that’s all pretty apparent.”

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The "expert":
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
28326 posts
Posted on 10/31/23 at 3:34 pm to
Shitshow.
Posted by Herschal
Land of the Free
Member since Sep 2011
1525 posts
Posted on 10/31/23 at 3:35 pm to
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He expressed messages over time that endorsed violence


So soft.
Posted by Pu2kph0
Member since Oct 2022
1074 posts
Posted on 10/31/23 at 3:35 pm to
Things I make up in my head for $1000 Alex…..
Posted by GoAwayImBaitn
On an island in the marsh
Member since Jul 2018
2135 posts
Posted on 10/31/23 at 3:36 pm to
Can't wait till these pussies experience real violence.
This post was edited on 10/31/23 at 3:37 pm
Posted by lake chuck fan
westlake
Member since Aug 2011
9157 posts
Posted on 10/31/23 at 3:41 pm to
Who decided this guy was an expert?

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One question that the trial will likely center on is whether Trump was aware of or intentionally signaled to the far-right extremists to be violent or attempt to overturn the election violently. Simi believes the former president was aware.

“Seems pretty pretty clear to me,” Simi said. “I mean, I’m not in Donald Trump’s mind, obviously, but in terms of observable patterns, in terms of the repeated nature of the things we’ve been discussing, that’s all pretty apparent.”


He admits that he doesn't know what Trump was thinking, so he's guessing. Everything is assumption. Smh
Posted by ezride25
Constitutional Republic
Member since Nov 2008
24278 posts
Posted on 10/31/23 at 3:44 pm to
Here’s a signal for you
















Posted by themunch
Earth. maybe
Member since Jan 2007
64655 posts
Posted on 10/31/23 at 3:46 pm to
I'm the expert here ok. Let me explain what you see and hear, not what you think.
Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
35086 posts
Posted on 10/31/23 at 3:47 pm to
quote:

From my years of studying how far-right extremists perceive communication


WTF is this?
Posted by Johnpettigrew
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2017
1633 posts
Posted on 10/31/23 at 3:48 pm to
So trumps defense is that he didn’t know he was doing what this schmuck is saying in the stand? Why in the frick are they not tearing this guy a new a-hole. I mean did the guy give the “good people on both sides” as an example?
Posted by Kattail
Member since Aug 2020
3327 posts
Posted on 10/31/23 at 3:49 pm to
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Simi said. “I mean, I’m not in Donald Trump’s mind, obviously,


No shite! This so called expert is making stuff up based on his assumptions. These people want to over ride the peoples right to choose based on made up shite. Shame, shame, shame.
Posted by BengalOnTheBay
Member since Aug 2022
3855 posts
Posted on 10/31/23 at 3:50 pm to
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relied on expert testimony from an extremism expert


quote:

Chapman University professor Pete Simi, who studies political violence and extremism,


As an "expert" who "studies political violence," I'd like to ask him how many times "violent insurrectionists" have tried to overthrow a government without bringing any weapons to the "fight."
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57216 posts
Posted on 10/31/23 at 3:52 pm to
quote:

“From my years of studying how far-right extremists perceive communication, the relationship that they developed with Donald Trump over multiple years, the various signals … promoting or endorsing violence, things done over social media … that aligned with many of the things that Trump said over the years,” Simi said.
How is the even allowed to entered into testimony. It’s completely subjective, and the “expert” could make up anything he wants.

This is nothing more than a Maoist show trial.
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
19694 posts
Posted on 10/31/23 at 3:53 pm to
What kind of nonsense is that? That's just conjecture, shouldn't be allowed near a courtroom
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
78525 posts
Posted on 10/31/23 at 3:54 pm to
Pete Simi. Not gaslighting about Trump and his voters on behalf of the Progressive elite at all. Such scholarship:

quote:

Latif, Mehr, Kathleen Blee, Matthew DeMichele, and Pete Simi. 2020. “Do White Supremacist Women
Adopt Movement Archetypes of Mother, Whore, and Fighter?”
Studies in Conflict and
Terrorism.


quote:

“Why White
Supremacist Women Become Disillusioned, and Why They Leave.”


quote:

Understanding the MicroSituational Dynamics of White Supremacist Violence in the United States.” Perspectives in Terrorism,


quote:

“How Emotional Dynamics Maintain
and Destroy White Supremacist Groups.”


quote:

Parenting as Activism: Identity Alignment
among White Power Activists


quote:

Understanding Music in Movements: the U.S.
White Power Music Scene.”

Posted by RobNation
Dallas, TX
Member since Sep 2011
889 posts
Posted on 10/31/23 at 3:58 pm to
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Simi also pointed to Trump’s reaction to the 2017 Charlottesville, Va., white supremacist rally where he said there were good people on “both sides.”


How many times does this have to be debunked
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 10/31/23 at 4:03 pm to
They should ask this expert on extremist violence his opinion on the tactics of BLM and Antifa.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
64322 posts
Posted on 10/31/23 at 4:03 pm to
What a choad!
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
19457 posts
Posted on 10/31/23 at 4:08 pm to
quote:

He said he was “very confident” that Trump led the events of Jan. 6.


I'm very confident that the "expert" is a Stalinist who wants a show trial.



Posted by Houag80
Member since Jul 2019
9163 posts
Posted on 10/31/23 at 4:13 pm to
I bet he diddles youngsters .
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