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Posted on 1/26/17 at 2:05 pm to ClientNumber9
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Well, I'm happy to take questions. Honestly, from my years of baking my arse off in the deserts of Arizona and California, a wall does work. It just does.
However, a wall is just one of three needed tiers. You also need 1) legal consequences to illegal border crossers (jail time and deportation) and 2) tighter controls on access to assistance/welfare programs. Without these, illegal aliens will continue to cross in large numbers.
I can't even find where this guy said anything about the wall.
Sounds like the union wasn't happy with an outsider, despite this guy's willingness to go against the narrative of the Obama administration. Anything you can add?
Posted on 1/26/17 at 2:08 pm to LSURussian
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Since Morgan was made head of the Border Patrol last June approximately 85,000 Mexicans have entered the U.S. illegally. So, I'm not so sure the guy is an "expert" on keeping Mexicans from entering illegally.
Yawn
First, read the thread. I know nothing of Morgan or his abilities.
Second, and I imagine our resident CBP poster can attest to this, blaming a career LEO in charge of an agency during the term of an activist President who doesn't really want you to do your job well probably isn't fair.
Posted on 1/26/17 at 2:09 pm to Salmon
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Are you denying that he probably knows more about the border and its situation than any of us?
These are the same people that 7 days in think Trump knows all about being President and can do no wrong.
Posted on 1/26/17 at 2:09 pm to Salmon
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guy knows more about the border than anyone here and Trump, but everyone here will laugh and call him an idiot
Are we really going to act like the people who have been securing the border for the last 8 years have a good hold on how to do it?
Posted on 1/26/17 at 2:09 pm to therick711
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Are we really going to act like the people who have been securing the border for the last 8 years have a good hold on how to do it?
you calling ClientNumber9 out?
Posted on 1/26/17 at 2:09 pm to ClientNumber9
quote:Trump has said the same exact thing. So I doubt he was canned over that.
Because he stated yesterday that he didn't think the country needed a full wall.
ETA: I also find it funny that this board is calling him stupid for repeating Trump's own words.
This post was edited on 1/26/17 at 2:11 pm
Posted on 1/26/17 at 2:10 pm to Pettifogger
Libs, this is another issue where it's not POTUS Trump unilaterally making a policy decision. He has said from Day One that he takes advice from the experts, discusses it with his staff, and then makes an informed decision. You may disagree with it, but it is an informed one. So, yea, in this case, I have no doubt he knew exactly what he was doing to who.
Posted on 1/26/17 at 2:10 pm to Salmon
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you calling ClientNumber9 out?
If he was calling the shots (spoiler alert: he wasn't), yes.
Posted on 1/26/17 at 2:11 pm to Pettifogger
quote:Morgan went on record agreeing with Obama's immigration free pass policy. That's what got him his political appointment.
during the term of an activist President who doesn't really want you to do your job well probably isn't fair.
Posted on 1/26/17 at 2:11 pm to Pettifogger
quote:Well let's face it that's most likely why the guy was hired into that position last summer.
blaming a career LEO in charge of an agency during the term of an activist President who doesn't really want you to do your job well probably isn't fair.
Time for the Obama acolyte to move along.
Posted on 1/26/17 at 2:13 pm to Keltic Tiger
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Libs, this is another issue where it's not POTUS Trump unilaterally making a policy decision. He has said from Day One that he takes advice from the experts, discusses it with his staff, and then makes an informed decision. You may disagree with it, but it is an informed one. So, yea, in this case, I have no doubt he knew exactly what he was doing to who.
I'm not a lib.
But I take no issue with Trump pushing people out he can't work with. I take issue (relatively, in message board world) with people who assume the removed guy (lifelong public servant) totally sucks because he doesn't agree with something Trump wants to do.
Posted on 1/26/17 at 2:14 pm to LSURussian
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Morgan went on record agreeing with Obama's immigration free pass policy. That's what got him his political appointment.
He said he agreed with comprehensive immigration reform, not wholesale amnesty. And he spoke out against Obama regarding enforcement and minors.
Posted on 1/26/17 at 2:15 pm to Pettifogger
Is the border patrol doing a good job in your estimation? While you're at it, did the department of state do a good job over the last 8 years in your estimation?
Posted on 1/26/17 at 2:16 pm to Pettifogger
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comprehensive immigration reform, not wholesale amnesty.
That's a dog whistle just like common sense gun control measures and pro-choice.
Posted on 1/26/17 at 2:19 pm to therick711
The patrol agents are not the problem. The suits in DC, on orders from the White House, have transformed agency mission from law enforcement to baby sitting.
Posted on 1/26/17 at 2:20 pm to therick711
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Is the border patrol doing a good job in your estimation?
I really don't know. I can tell you from working with CBP, in immigration, and having a family member as border patrol agent that complaints regarding the inability (manpower, other resources, etc.) go back way before Obama's administration. I do not know how to gauge their performance against prior years, particularly in light of the fact that the prior administration probably disagreed with agents as well as some senior folks.
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did the department of state do a good job over the last 8 years in your estimation
No. But State is an organically liberal agency in many respects, and again, that isn't just an Obama thing. But I think it got worse under Obama and I'm not opposed to seeing big changes. I do think it's silly that some people appear to want every policy expert who disagrees with the President to leave.
Posted on 1/26/17 at 2:20 pm to ClientNumber9
He resigned.
Posted on 1/26/17 at 2:21 pm to AZTarheeel
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The patrol agents are not the problem. The suits in DC, on orders from the White House, have transformed agency mission from law enforcement to baby sitting.
Which I think is the point I've already made.
Posted on 1/26/17 at 2:22 pm to therick711
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That's a dog whistle just like common sense gun control measures and pro-choice.
I agree with comprehensive immigration reform that includes giving CBP whatever they want to get the job done. So I don't think it equates to "common sense gun control."
Unless you think anyone who doesn't support total deportation fits that description.
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