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re: Trump sacks Chief of the Border Patrol

Posted on 1/26/17 at 1:51 pm to
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 1/26/17 at 1:51 pm to
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guy knows more about the border than anyone here and Trump, but everyone here will laugh and call him an idiot
He never worked there until Odrama named him.
Posted by LosLobos111
Austere
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45385 posts
Posted on 1/26/17 at 1:52 pm to
The contrarians recently crack me up

Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
85933 posts
Posted on 1/26/17 at 1:52 pm to
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Wrong. I take this guys "ClientNumber9" word over some Obama shill.



See, Salmon

"I'll take the word of the message board guy with unverifiable work history over the chief of border patrol and long time FBI agent"

FWIW I don't doubt ClientNumber9, but this shite is just absurd.
Posted by motionmagic
Mobile, Alabama
Member since Nov 2010
831 posts
Posted on 1/26/17 at 1:52 pm to
So a guy who has been working as the Chief of Border Patrol since July knows all about the 'wall' and it's effectiveness?

I guarantee you there is more to the story.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
85933 posts
Posted on 1/26/17 at 1:54 pm to
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So a guy who has been working as the Chief of Border Patrol since July knows all about the 'wall' and it's effectiveness?



I'm sure Trump is an expert on border fortification strategies
Posted by Scanlon Shorthalt
Member since Jan 2017
287 posts
Posted on 1/26/17 at 1:54 pm to
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but everyone here will laugh and call him an idiot
He's an idiot for publicly announcing he disagrees with his boss.


Exactly.

I learned that lesson in my first job role as a senior in college as an intern. Had a great boss who I was loyal to. He was replaced with a guy that I just didn't agree with. I was a little to vocal about it. Suddenly the policy for interns changed and they no longer needed me.

The hard lessons are the best learned.

Posted by Mulat
Avalon Bch, FL
Member since Sep 2010
17517 posts
Posted on 1/26/17 at 1:54 pm to
I am amazed "the swamp" extends to this job position but I guess i should have realized problems were there also, WOW
Posted by FreddieMac
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 1/26/17 at 1:54 pm to
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
85372 posts
Posted on 1/26/17 at 1:54 pm to
quote:

So a guy who has been working as the Chief of Border Patrol since July knows all about the 'wall' and it's effectiveness?


Are you denying that he probably knows more about the border and its situation than any of us?

Is that really an unreasonable assertion?
Posted by Toddy
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2010
27251 posts
Posted on 1/26/17 at 1:54 pm to
It stands to reason the Chief of the Border Patrol understands and knows a lot more about the border than the trump. Of course the Trumpanzees are going to believe their ringleader can do no wrong.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
84168 posts
Posted on 1/26/17 at 1:55 pm to
You aren't very bright are you Toddy?
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
85933 posts
Posted on 1/26/17 at 1:56 pm to
Chief of Border Patrol might be totally wrong

But it's idiotic to assume he's wrong and Trump is correct without more.
Posted by TejasHorn
High Plains Driftin'
Member since Mar 2007
11587 posts
Posted on 1/26/17 at 1:56 pm to
I'm getting the impression that if you aren't a sycophant you can kiss your arse goodbye.

Good luck hiring competent people.
Posted by Alabamya
Da Ham
Member since Jan 2009
9179 posts
Posted on 1/26/17 at 1:57 pm to
quote:

you denying that he probably knows more about the border and its situation than any of us?



well maybe not more than guy that said he was a boarder patrol for 10 fricking years.
Posted by LosLobos111
Austere
Member since Feb 2011
45385 posts
Posted on 1/26/17 at 1:58 pm to
Or maybe he's just unfit for the job

I mean he was a political appointee and never was in border patrol

This post was edited on 1/26/17 at 1:59 pm
Posted by ClientNumber9
Member since Feb 2009
9949 posts
Posted on 1/26/17 at 1:59 pm to
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See, Salmon "I'll take the word of the message board guy with unverifiable work history over the chief of border patrol and long time FBI agent" FWIW I don't doubt ClientNumber9, but this shite is just absurd.


Well, I'm happy to take questions. Honestly, from my years of baking my arse off in the deserts of Arizona and California, a wall does work. It just does.

However, a wall is just one of three needed tiers. You also need 1) legal consequences to illegal border crossers (jail time and deportation) and 2) tighter controls on access to assistance/welfare programs. Without these, illegal aliens will continue to cross in large numbers.

For example, when I got to my first duty location, we were catching 500-600 aliens a day in just my 20 miles of border. No exaggeration. Sometimes we netted 700+. It was estimated that for every one we caught, three got away because there was no real fencing, not enough agents and no where to house the aliens we did catch.

If the aliens didn't have significant criminal history, they were dropped back off at the border and they'd try again a few hours later. Sometimes we'd catch the same alien three times in one day. Eventually, we'd stop seeing him because he made his way through. The wall slows this down. The legal consequences will put him jail and formally deport him. When he crosses again after this, he'll be a felony case. This dramatically slows border crossings. I've seen it in action.
This post was edited on 1/26/17 at 2:04 pm
Posted by teampick
Member since Jan 2015
2400 posts
Posted on 1/26/17 at 2:00 pm to
It doesn't pay to piss off the teamsters. We are talking lots of union jobs in the southwest. The wall will need lots of fixing too because it is sure to be a piece of crap
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
85372 posts
Posted on 1/26/17 at 2:01 pm to
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You also need 1) legal consequences to illegal border crossers (jail time and deportation) and 2) tighter controls on access to assistance/welfare programs. Without these, illegal aliens will continue to cross in large numbers.


Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133557 posts
Posted on 1/26/17 at 2:03 pm to
quote:

I'm sure Trump is an expert on border fortification strategies
Since Morgan was made head of the Border Patrol last June approximately 85,000 Mexicans have entered the U.S. illegally. So, I'm not so sure the guy is an "expert" on keeping Mexicans from entering illegally.
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 1/26/17 at 2:04 pm to
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Are you denying that he probably knows more about the border and its situation than any of us



I'm not denying that he's a filthy liberal who was appointed to his position and now is on the unemployment line.
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