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re: Trump postpones Iranian power plant strikes for 5 days

Posted on 3/23/26 at 12:54 pm to
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47572 posts
Posted on 3/23/26 at 12:54 pm to
I’m not sure what people want. If he turns their entire infrastructure base into rubble, leaving free Iranians with nothing to build from - OMB and we have to pay to rebuild Iran.

If he shows measures of both force and diplomacy to achieve the same results with minimal casualties and destruction, he’s a pussy.
Posted by jammajin
Member since Jul 2024
1986 posts
Posted on 3/23/26 at 12:56 pm to
they've been doing that since the start.

1) gotta have regime change or it's not a success
2) gotta have boots on the ground for regime change
3) Trump is going back on campaign and getting us into an endless war.

Once you've crossed the bridge of actively rooting against the US because OMB, the "reasons" why become secondary

This post was edited on 3/23/26 at 12:59 pm
Posted by GTnerd
ATL Jawja baby
Member since Sep 2023
845 posts
Posted on 3/23/26 at 1:02 pm to
quote:

I’m not sure what people want. If he turns their entire infrastructure base into rubble, leaving free Iranians with nothing to build from - OMB and we have to pay to rebuild Iran.

If he shows measures of both force and diplomacy to achieve the same results with minimal casualties and destruction, he’s a pussy.


It’s not that anyone actually wanted him to do the insane thing that he said he was going to do, it’s just that he is taco-ing out after running his mouth, it makes him and the US look weak af. He’s also manipulating the markets again so he and his inner circle can keep siphoning our 401k profits away- again.
Posted by jammajin
Member since Jul 2024
1986 posts
Posted on 3/23/26 at 1:07 pm to
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it makes him and the US look weak af


after the beat down we have placed on a military regime like Iran in the last 3 weeks.

who were supplied with Chinese defensive weaponry.

and considering what Russia has had going on in Ukraine in the last 3 years.

I assure you, the US does not look weak AF to anyone who matters
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
26797 posts
Posted on 3/23/26 at 1:11 pm to
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I don't think blowing a few breakers with a graphite bomb is the equivalent of the war crime that you have in your head.


I don't know what you have in your head or what reality you live in or where you get your information from, but what you described is not what was on the table. from the horse's mouth:


My head includes tactical explosives called graphite bombs for the sole purpose of knocking out a power source without necessitating a complete repair of the electrical infrastructure.
quote:

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If Iran doesn’t FULLY OPEN, WITHOUT THREAT, the Strait of Hormuz, within 48 HOURS from this exact point in time, the United States of America will hit and obliterate their various POWER PLANTS, STARTING WITH THE BIGGEST ONE FIRST,”


I'd like to see how you weasel out of the disinformation you just posted.


You seem to have never heard of Donald Trump.
Nor have you read his book, The Art of the Deal

I suggest you take a Xanax. Or a shot of your favorite whiskey.
You are going to get through this OK.
Posted by jammajin
Member since Jul 2024
1986 posts
Posted on 3/23/26 at 1:12 pm to


what looked weak AF to the entities that matter were a potato President and a seemingly drunk VP staring blankly into the camera and saying "don't don't don't" when questioned whether they have a message for tyrant regimes or not.

Posted by mikeytig
NE of Tiger Stadium
Member since Nov 2007
7880 posts
Posted on 3/23/26 at 1:51 pm to
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Who blinked


Good one
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47572 posts
Posted on 3/23/26 at 2:07 pm to
quote:

it makes him and the US look weak af.


LOL. No one on earth that matters thinks this.
Posted by AGGIES
Member since Jul 2021
12318 posts
Posted on 3/23/26 at 2:12 pm to
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LOL. No one on earth that matters thinks this.


False. That’s both arrogant and inaccurate.
Posted by jammajin
Member since Jul 2024
1986 posts
Posted on 3/23/26 at 2:28 pm to
what looked weak AF to the entities that matter were a potato President and a seemingly drunk VP staring blankly into the camera and saying "don't don't don't" when questioned whether they have a message for tyrant regimes or not.
Posted by Jim Ed Love
Deep East Oklahoma
Member since Jan 2024
106 posts
Posted on 3/23/26 at 2:30 pm to


Oil is so passé. Paperclips boys! That is the new plastic!
Posted by AGGIES
Member since Jul 2021
12318 posts
Posted on 3/23/26 at 2:33 pm to
No argument that Kamala was not ready for primetime.

But that is not the entirety of what looks weak AF.

Retracting your 48 hours warning almost immediately also looks weak AF.

Both can be true.
Posted by jammajin
Member since Jul 2024
1986 posts
Posted on 3/23/26 at 2:45 pm to
that's true.

One of these two parties have a chance to act further and clarify whether they are WAF.

One of them doesn't.

who do you feel matters that sees this as WAF right now?

be honest and specific. They have to "matter", and you have to have a reason that compares your 48 hour EXTENSION (not retraction) with what we have put on Iran in the last 3 weeks and decides we are WAF



Posted by PurpleCrush
ATL
Member since May 2014
2430 posts
Posted on 3/23/26 at 2:49 pm to
TACO time after he listened to understand that would be a war crime.

I thought he was a great negotiator? Not
Posted by AGGIES
Member since Jul 2021
12318 posts
Posted on 3/23/26 at 2:57 pm to
We have pummeled the regime with superior military.

No building of a coalition is weak. Then begging for help after saying you don’t need help is weak.

The comments from Trump over the past couple of weeks are meaningless when they are irrelevant 24 hours later. The weakest example is Witkoff saying we can take Russia their word that they are not supporting Iran with intelligence or military supplies. So Trump naming Witkoff and Kushner as negotiators looks like we are naming the weakest negotiator we can find. Now we are reading that maybe he isn’t going to be the negotiatior.

It looks like Trump has very little respect for the American public, to be honest.

TACO on this is weak. Did anyone believe Trump would not back down after Iran published the list of sites targeted? Did anyone believe that Iran was going to just open it up? Their lives depend on whatever leverage they have.

Russia and China matter. Other adversaries matter.

You can be honest also.

Posted by jammajin
Member since Jul 2024
1986 posts
Posted on 3/23/26 at 3:29 pm to
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Russia and China matter. Other adversaries matter.

You can be honest also.


so you think Russia and China are the 2 countries watching what is happening and have decided Trump and the US are WAF because he extended the deadline on Iran while negotiations are happening?

And you think Russia and China believe the US is WAF because we pummeled the hell out of Iran without a coalition (I assume Israel does not count).

So we had no coalition even though neighboring countries allowed us to use their bases and their air space to pummel Iran

Inclusive in the pummeling of Iran was every piece of defensive equipment that China provided them to defend against such pummellng but China sees us as WAF?

And Russia, after the embarrassing display of force they have put forward against Ukraine in the last several years, see us as WAF?

And these things concern and bother you?

What has China and Russia done to step in and provide "coalition" with Iran during this process? Military support? Weapons replenishment? A strongly worded letter? Have they moved one piece of military firepower in the direction of Iran or the straight?

Besides Iran, who do you think relies on the oil supply through the straight most? And besides the lip service about the straight being "controlled" by Iran (because anytime we want we could pummel that from them as well) who would suffer most if we took control and closed the straight?

Did Russia show anywhere near the amount of restraint and precision in their operations vs. Ukraine that we have shown in our operations with Iran, as it relates to civilian population and infrastructure? Do you really think they don't get how much worse this would be if we truly took the gloves off?

Back to you.



This post was edited on 3/23/26 at 3:31 pm
Posted by captainFid
Never apologize to barbarism
Member since Dec 2014
10552 posts
Posted on 3/23/26 at 3:36 pm to
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Who blinked?

Those hiding in tunnels.
Posted by AGGIES
Member since Jul 2021
12318 posts
Posted on 3/23/26 at 6:36 pm to
All I can tell you is that I’m differentiating between military power and political power.

I acknowledge we have superior military power as compared to Russia.

I don’t want to be reduced to or compared to Russia when discussing political power.

We are headed in that direction in terms of how we are viewed with significant distrust, and I want to avoid being in the same conversation as Russia.
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
90572 posts
Posted on 3/23/26 at 6:38 pm to
No clown we have military power over everyone.


I don't have one single dry frick how we are viewed.

Posted by beaux duke
Member since Oct 2023
4911 posts
Posted on 3/23/26 at 6:38 pm to
quote:

I’m not sure what people want. If he turns their entire infrastructure base into rubble, leaving free Iranians with nothing to build from - OMB and we have to pay to rebuild Iran.

If he shows measures of both force and diplomacy to achieve the same results with minimal casualties and destruction, he’s a pussy.

probably why he shouldn't have started this fools errand
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