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re: Trump pollster's campaign autopsy paints damning picture of defeat

Posted on 2/2/21 at 4:27 am to
Posted by 2020_reVISION
Richmond,VA
Member since Dec 2020
3289 posts
Posted on 2/2/21 at 4:27 am to
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In the five states that flipped to Biden


Yeah,about those 5 states...

to be cont'd...
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 2/2/21 at 4:37 am to
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And while Trump spread baseless accusations of ballot-stuffing in heavily Black cities, the report notes that he was done in by hemorrhaging support from white voters.



Sounds good except for the adding 10s of millions of votes to his 2016 count.
Posted by Jyrdis
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Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 2/2/21 at 4:42 am to
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Biden also got over 10 million more votes than Hillary did.



So you admit there was fraud?
Posted by Tesla
the Laurentian Abyss
Member since Dec 2011
9146 posts
Posted on 2/2/21 at 5:06 am to
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And while Trump spread baseless accusations of ballot-stuffing in heavily Black cities, the report notes that he was done in by hemorrhaging support from white voters.


And by this, he means, “added 10,000,000 more votes.”
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128844 posts
Posted on 2/2/21 at 5:08 am to
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Could be that more people in red states voted for him than in 2016, that could make his total votes go up and not help him in the electoral college.


Could be. But it isn’t. Talk out your arse some more.
Posted by Niccolo Machiavelli
Member since Jun 2020
1622 posts
Posted on 2/2/21 at 5:17 am to
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I don't like radicalism


Then what are you doing supporting democrats?
Posted by mightyMick
Member since Aug 2018
3067 posts
Posted on 2/2/21 at 5:54 am to
Another brainwashed sheep discovered.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
37597 posts
Posted on 2/2/21 at 5:55 am to
It's not about losing states or even counties....it's about the margins. If Trump wins a county with 55% in 2020 but won with 60% in 2016 thay is a 5 pt swing to the Democrat. In some cases key conties were just barely flipped like Kent in Michigan. It was about not losing indivodual counties by as much. Obama did this in 2008 and 2012. Is it any surprise that Biden did not use the same strategy.

Trump's people did not pay attention to the ground game and Trump thought people hated Biden like they hated Hillary. They did not. I know Republicans that grew tired of Trump and his boobish ways. I know Republican campaign types who tell me that they had zero help from his campaign in terms of strategy and they are still pissed about it.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
37597 posts
Posted on 2/2/21 at 6:02 am to
Turnout for President was higher across the board. So Trump gets higher turnout as does Biden.

Trump was good retail, but strategically not as good. He pissed off a lot of Republican establishment types....types you NEED in order to do the little things necessary. Campaigns like 2020 are won on the margins. On the margins, Democrats are superior in organization and overall effectiveness.
Posted by BiteMe2020
Texas
Member since Nov 2020
7284 posts
Posted on 2/2/21 at 6:04 am to
How did he hemorrhage votes when he got more votes in 2020 than in 2016, lol?

He got beaten by the ghost voters.
Posted by BiteMe2020
Texas
Member since Nov 2020
7284 posts
Posted on 2/2/21 at 6:05 am to
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On the margins, Democrats are superior in organization and overall effectiveness.


They have more dark money and a larger unemployed base to draw from in big cities to harvest votes.
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
35934 posts
Posted on 2/2/21 at 6:06 am to
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CrimsonFever


Election was stolen. GTFOOH
Posted by timdonaghyswhistle
Member since Jul 2018
21068 posts
Posted on 2/2/21 at 6:06 am to
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if not by Trump and his legions of his supporters


I remember when even the bird cage liners had competent editors.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
37597 posts
Posted on 2/2/21 at 6:26 am to
But, that is not where they won. They always have the cities. They won by peeling of voters in the suburbs and exurbs. Think point spreads. My team can win the game, but if the losing team covers the point spread, your bet on the losing team puts you in the money. That's what the Democrats did and have been doing since Obama especially in the suburbs. Hillary did not do a good job of it. So Trump wins county X with 55% of the vote. But if the betting odds had him winning with 60%....it's a Democrat win.

I'm surprised that more people don't see this.
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
42448 posts
Posted on 2/2/21 at 6:35 am to
I’m putting peanut butter on your toast. I’m telling you it’s jelly. Now, I am describing what kind of jelly it is and how it tastes, but it’s still peanut butter.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128844 posts
Posted on 2/2/21 at 6:44 am to
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If Trump wins a county with 55% in 2020 but won with 60% in 2016 thay is a 5 pt swing to the Democrat.


That’s a simplistic view that many people are employing. It ignores third party candidates (specifically the lack of them).
Posted by Flashback
reading the chicken bones
Member since Apr 2008
8479 posts
Posted on 2/2/21 at 6:45 am to
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Biden also got over 10 million more votes than Hillary did.


Ok cuck. Keep drinking the kool aid. Whatever makes you feel like u know something.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
122900 posts
Posted on 2/2/21 at 6:46 am to
Did your wife let you go to your good boy room after voting Biden?
Posted by Bow08tie
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2011
4563 posts
Posted on 2/2/21 at 6:48 am to
Debunked

Next....
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 2/2/21 at 6:49 am to
You mother frickers will do ANYTHING to keep from talking about what is going on.

This is getting laughable at this point.
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