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Posted on 11/28/18 at 3:45 pm to cahoots
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All the frick over the place on this issue
OP seems upset it’s not clear which side he should take.
Posted on 11/28/18 at 3:49 pm to cahoots
no no no it's just leverage so that we can achieve True Free Trade™!
it's totally not because he's a tariff-loving guy
it's totally not because he's a tariff-loving guy
Posted on 11/28/18 at 3:55 pm to cahoots
Trump can't target 1 automaker or he'd likely lose in court. If he pulls some kind of tax he's likely got to do it to all of the US automakers.
Posted on 11/28/18 at 3:59 pm to cahoots
Protectionism is a long term drain, but I'm in favor of using it if other countries are going to as well. If you don't match their measures, you lose. You just end up with marginally cheaper junk and no jobs.
The point GEOTUS is making about trucks and the chicken tax, which is the same point he's made about tariffs from the beginning, is that they aren't the end of the world.
The point GEOTUS is making about trucks and the chicken tax, which is the same point he's made about tariffs from the beginning, is that they aren't the end of the world.
Posted on 11/28/18 at 3:59 pm to Hightide12
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OP seems upset it’s not clear which side he should take.
Are you for/against ending the auto subsidies? For/against expanding the chicken tax? And what is your rationale behind each view?
Posted on 11/28/18 at 4:01 pm to TeLeFaWx
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Protectionism is a long term drain, but I'm in favor of using it if other countries are going to as well
there is a third option
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the same point he's made about tariffs from the beginning, is that they aren't the end of the world
his "point" is that he thinks they are good
This post was edited on 11/28/18 at 4:03 pm
Posted on 11/28/18 at 4:02 pm to cajunangelle
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A whole 600 hundred jobs, yippee.
There were about that many gained and lost in the U.S. economy in the time it took me to write this post.
Posted on 11/28/18 at 4:06 pm to TeLeFaWx
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Protectionism is a long term drain, but I'm in favor of using it if other countries are going to as well. If you don't match their measures, you lose. You just end up with marginally cheaper junk and no jobs.
The point GEOTUS is making about trucks and the chicken tax, which is the same point he's made about tariffs from the beginning, is that they aren't the end of the world.
Are you Bernie Sanders? No joke, that's exactly what he'd say.
This post was edited on 11/28/18 at 4:07 pm
Posted on 11/28/18 at 4:08 pm to cahoots
That only exists in your mind.
Can you link where he said these words:
"Hey Congress, end the subsidies! GM is ungrateful.
Can you link where he said these words:
"Hey Congress, end the subsidies! GM is ungrateful.
Posted on 11/28/18 at 4:08 pm to cahoots
His economic advisors are exploring an import tax, like the ones other countries hammer us with. How is that a contradiction to favoring a roll back in federal subsidies for electrics?
Posted on 11/28/18 at 4:13 pm to cahoots
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Are you Bernie Sanders? No joke, that's exactly what he'd say.
Sure. I'm Bernie Sanders. You got me.
Posted on 11/28/18 at 4:14 pm to cahoots
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Are you for/against ending the auto subsidies? For/against expanding the chicken tax? And what is your rationale behind each view?
It’s your thread sweetie, go ahead.
Posted on 11/28/18 at 4:27 pm to Vacherie Saint
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His economic advisors are exploring an import tax, like the ones other countries hammer us with.
what you mean to say is that trump is arguing explicitly for a 25% tax on imported trucks, which we hammer ourselves with already, to apply to other goods too
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How is that a contradiction to favoring a roll back in federal subsidies for electrics?
Arguing for a tax on items that compete with something you want to protect works very much like a subsidy
Posted on 11/28/18 at 4:28 pm to cahoots
Each manufacturer has to many options. Eliminating different types cars should help the company and in the long run help the consumer.
Why produce the Yukon, Tahoe, and Escalade? Yukon or Tahoe needs to be eliminated.
GM is competing against itself. It is hurting their profit and the price a customer pays for a new vehicle
Why produce the Yukon, Tahoe, and Escalade? Yukon or Tahoe needs to be eliminated.
GM is competing against itself. It is hurting their profit and the price a customer pays for a new vehicle
Posted on 11/28/18 at 4:35 pm to MizzouBS
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Each manufacturer has to many options. Eliminating different types cars should help the company and in the long run help the consumer. Why produce the Yukon, Tahoe, and Escalade? Yukon or Tahoe needs to be eliminated. GM is competing against itself. It is hurting their profit and the price a customer pays for a new vehicle
SO eliminate what the people are buying? You smart.
Posted on 11/28/18 at 4:41 pm to cahoots
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Are you Bernie Sanders? No joke, that's exactly what he'd say.
Middle Class Conservatives have always been accused of voting against their own economic interest.
Trump stole Pat Buchanans old platform and now they are foresaking the free trade principles of their hero Reagan( Mr Globalization).
Posted on 11/28/18 at 4:46 pm to 90proofprofessional
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what you mean to say is that trump is arguing explicitly for a 25% tax on imported trucks, which we hammer ourselves with already, to apply to other goods too
A 25% chicken tax that killed the US small pick up market.
Small pickups are still sold worldwide,but good luck buying one here because of this tax.
Posted on 11/28/18 at 4:51 pm to 90proofprofessional
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it's totally not because he's a tariff-loving guy
So tariffs have been used for centuries by tons of countries, but they're bad for us to use because free trade has worked so well?
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