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re: Trump on familys angry he’s hosting Saudi LIV tour “Nobody’s gotten to the bottom of 9/11”

Posted on 7/29/22 at 9:24 am to
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
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Posted on 7/29/22 at 9:24 am to
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What does this even mean? Can you elucidate?



You indicate above QT offers a remedy to the “money printing” problem.

Yet no one, not even the self proclaimed money wizards at the Fed, have any clue of where this parabolic policy of QT will lead us because no Central Bank has attempted to unload assets and liabilities on such a massive scale before.
Posted by cwill
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Posted on 7/29/22 at 11:06 am to
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You indicate above QT offers a remedy to the “money printing” problem.


You're reading an absolute where there was none...the money printing has stopped, QT is happening, where it leads I don't know, but it's better than QE. I pointed out the change in policy and noted that the dollar has strengthened relative to other currencies. Not sure why you're so upset.

Posted by Bass Tiger
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Posted on 7/29/22 at 11:14 am to
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Its not really dumb. There were many points of failure that let it happen and nobody so much as lost their job over it.


At a minimum if the unvarnished truth came out about 9/11 it would show all the involved federal government agencies had enough intelligence to know about and to thwart the 9/11 plot…..but each federal intelligence/law enforcement agency is it’s own kingdom and they failed to share information and cooperate to prevent 9/11. Never forget Sandy The Burglar Berger removing classified documents from the National Archives during the 9/11 Commission and was caught destroying those documents.
Posted by boxcar willie
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Posted on 7/29/22 at 11:41 am to
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I don't know how two planes like that can destroy two buildings that size.

my IQ is 100 also
Posted by Powerman
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Posted on 7/29/22 at 11:46 am to
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How did that steel melt?

It doesn't have to melt for the buildings to collapse

Steel loses a significant amount of its structural integrity at higher temps that aren't necessarily melting point

Sometimes I think that you probably didn't even graduate high school with these types of questions
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 7/29/22 at 11:56 am to
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“Nobody’s gotten to the bottom of 9/11”

It’s almost like a former president who had/has access to sensitive documents knows more about this issue than OMLandshark
Posted by bayou2
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Posted on 7/29/22 at 11:58 am to
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GWP Files Suit to Unseal Epstein-Maxwell Client List



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if they did get the client list it may just show how many executives from the airline industry is on that list ...


9/11 comes to mind ...




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remember during that time beepers, pagers and couriers on bikes were used ...




This post was edited on 7/29/22 at 12:03 pm
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
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Posted on 7/29/22 at 12:08 pm to
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the money printing has stopped


The money printing most certainly has not stopped — it is the funding mechanism for the Welfare/Warfare State.

Our entire government is dependent upon a print-on-demand currency based on debt financing.

Where do you think the money to pay for these massive trillion dollar stimulus/bailout initiatives originates?
This post was edited on 7/29/22 at 2:37 pm
Posted by bayou2
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Posted on 7/29/22 at 12:12 pm to

Remember some more stuff ...


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remember that photo in the ToE thread of Obama with his hands on the shoulders of Maggie Nixion ???


[link=(remember that photo in the ToE thread of Obama with his hands on the shoulders of Maggie Nixion ???)]LINK[/link]


This post was edited on 7/29/22 at 12:15 pm
Posted by bayou2
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Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 7/29/22 at 12:19 pm to


... any connection to 9/11 ???


or maybe the original planned event was to be held earlier and was delayed to 2001

BUT

something happened ...

such as the airplane crash of

JFKjr

figure that one


Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 7/29/22 at 12:50 pm to
The money supply has significantly tightened with the end of QE and the start of QT…some economists point to this as leading to the recession:

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This inflation cannot be reversed, but in its panic to raise rates and begin quantitative tightening, the Fed has, in the three months before June, allowed M2 growth to plunge to an anemic annualized growth rate of 0.1%. When broad money growth falls to near zero, nominal spending contracts and a recession begins.

If this minuscule growth in the money supply persists, a recession will start in late 2022 or early 2023. By raising M2 annual growth to around 6%, the Fed could avoid sending the U.S. into a steep recession, which would include a surge in unemployment. But, without M2 on its dashboard, the Fed is unnecessarily flying blind.


LINK

Again, not sure why you’re so mad.

Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 7/29/22 at 12:56 pm to
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No evidence of widespread jet fuel melting steel beams


Yes. Correct. Pouring jet fuel on steel beams will not melt them.

Now.

What does intense fire do to steel under load?
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 7/29/22 at 1:15 pm to
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Okay so let’s say it is scientifically possible for what you are saying to happen have happen… now, what accounts for the building falling at free fall speed straight downward? Surely you know that’s impossible to achieve with anything other than a planned demolition.


You truthers don’t even care to take the time to look at how those towers were constructed.

The steel beams you keep harping about were in the center of the building, however, the design of the WTC towers also relied on the exterior structure for support.

That’s how they could design the open floor plans they had.

When the planes went through the building, the buildings lost a tremendous amount of structural integrity right on the spot. As soon as the collision happened. Before a single solitary piece of paper caught fire.

You keep yapping about thermite and interior steel beams. And you are too ignorant to know about the exterior structure.

The exterior structure was the absolute last to fail. Not the interior beams. That’s why it fell straight down.

It’s like an aluminum can. A fat arse can stand on one unopened beer and it not crush. Open the beer, drink it, and you remove the interior structure. Now. You can put some weight on the can and it will still stand.

Put fatass back on it and it crushes the exterior all at once when the exterior fails at the same time. Straight down.

That is how it happened.
This post was edited on 7/29/22 at 1:23 pm
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
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Posted on 7/29/22 at 2:36 pm to
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Again, not sure why you’re so mad.


I’m not mad. I’m actually surprised we are having something of a discussion.

Yet that quote is just more Fed talking points and monetarist goobly-asian. Whatever the source of that quote is not going to change the reality that every nation or Empire which has attempted to print itself into perpetuity has been doomed to collapse upon itself.

Now, I know you make it your mission to dispel kooky conspiracy theories on this board, but IMO collapse is the ultimate goal. In any event, our government has long passed the point to reign in spending: at some point gravity is going to take over and it is not going to be a soft landing for any of us.


Posted by cwill
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Posted on 7/29/22 at 2:57 pm to
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Yet that quote is just more Fed talking points and monetarist goobly-asian.


In what respect? Is QT not the current Fed policy? Can you provide information that is contrary?

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Whatever the source of that quote is not going to change the reality that every nation or Empire which has attempted to print itself into perpetuity has been doomed to collapse upon itself.


OK, can you provide some of those examples and how is that related to the fact that the current policy is QT and the money supply has been significantly choked back and the dollar is strong relative to other currencies?

Posted by Toomer Deplorable
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Posted on 7/29/22 at 5:40 pm to
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Is QT not the current Fed policy?


Standing Fed policy is money manipulation that is enabled with a smoke and mirrors show by the reigning Financial Establishment. Yet even Wall Street is growing nervous about what the Fed is now attempting.

During QE, the Fed created money out of thin air and went on a bond buying spree that swelled it’s balance sheet. Now, as the Fed seeks to shrink its assets and liabilities the Fed is simply deleting the money it created out of thin air just as it conjured it up in the first place.

QE and QT is a freaking Ponzi scheme pure and simple. There is really no other way to describe it.

The only thing that gives our entire financial system any legitimacy whatsoever is our nation’s nuclear stockpile. These are very dangerous times because it increasingly appears the power crazed lunatics behind this will not hesitate to tripwire WWIII to keep this scheme going.

Posted by cwill
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Posted on 7/29/22 at 8:12 pm to
Ok so you’re not really going to back your statements.
Posted by BFIV
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Posted on 7/29/22 at 9:02 pm to
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Sometimes I think that you probably didn't even graduate high school with these types of questions



I find it ironic that you said this. The correct form or usage is "...graduate FROM high school..." which is taught in...high school.
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
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Posted on 7/29/22 at 10:02 pm to
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Ok so you’re not really going to back your statements.


Look, troll, any resource I would normally suggest is from a libertarian POV so rather than have you ridicule such sites as being a part of the lunatic fringe, I’ll just say do your own research and peer outside your cocoon of establishment media outlets like the NyTi (or wherever it is you get your “news.”)

There are reams and reams of fact based sources online — from all points of the political spectrum — documenting the true nature of the Fed.

Since you seem to have a fetish for MSM journalists, I will suggest you read a book by the late William Greider: Secrets Of The Temple.

I became familiar with Greider when he wrote for Rolling Stone magazine in the 1980s.

Greider was also a contributor to PBS’s Frontline and a long-time writer for the WaPo and The Nation magazine.

Greider was of a left-liberal bent that may or may not appeal to your political sensibilities.

Yet all the fundamentals problems that Greider discusses in this interview that occurred after the housing bubble burst has only been exacerbated in the near decade and a half since the then unprecedented 2009 Bailout.

Economic Stimulus Moves to Senate Following House Approval | A DEMOCRACY NOW Interview With William Greider…


…The system is not just broken and not just injured; it is collapsed. And as long as the government continues to play putting Humpty Dumpty back together again, I think it will fail. That’s not an ideological statement. It’s just — I think it’s the reality. (8:40-9:00)
This post was edited on 7/29/22 at 10:07 pm
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 7/29/22 at 10:17 pm to
You’ve never answered a question, just keep going into the same non sequitur fed rant.

Is the fed not tightening the money supply? Is Qt not the current policy? Is the dollar not strengthening relative to other currencies? What examples can you provide about empires collapsing due to money printing?

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Look, troll, any resource I would normally suggest is from a libertarian POV so rather than have you ridicule such sites


Why are you so defensive and angry?
This post was edited on 7/29/22 at 10:39 pm
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