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re: Trump needs to condemn white nationalists and alt-right groups

Posted on 8/13/17 at 9:36 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 8/13/17 at 9:36 am to
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And completely insane, rendering his politics meaningless.

yes i was just refuting his refutation

but yes
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
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Posted on 8/13/17 at 9:38 am to
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How do you classify someone as alt-right?

i think that's the reason why "naming names" is hard

there is not a specific definition of "Alt-Right" and it's a moving target

so now you're down to naming just names. David Duke...Richard Spencer...and? who else does he need to name to never have to bring this up again?
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 8/13/17 at 9:39 am to
I think he should handle the white nationalists exactly as Obama handled ANTIFA. I would say like Obama handled BLM but he openly supported those racists. So no.

Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
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Posted on 8/13/17 at 9:39 am to
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And completely insane, rendering his politics meaningless.


As was the guy who shot up the baseball field...

As was the guy who shot up the gay club....

As was the guy who shot up his office in CA...

As was the guy who shot up the base in TX...

BUT THIS GUY YESTERDAY...

Nope. THIS GUY'S politics are meaningful.

Sick.
Posted by RCDfan1950
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Posted on 8/13/17 at 9:40 am to
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quote: like obama never did with BLM?

Trump isn't Obama. He needs to be the bigger man. Be a real leader.


And Trump isn't, when he condemns ALL extremist violence? This tit for tat crap - like one side is worse than the other - won't cut it. Trump is doing exactly what that blindfolded Figure in the Statue of the 'Scales of Justice' symbolizes. This double standard either ends...or the division becomes more inflamed.
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
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Posted on 8/13/17 at 9:40 am to
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who else does he need to name to never have to bring this up again?


And you and I both know where that's going.

Aiken (Spelling) anyone?
Posted by Damone
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Posted on 8/13/17 at 9:41 am to
I almost started a thread about the inherent need to classify someone into some sort of identifiable ideology group following an act of violence.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476599 posts
Posted on 8/13/17 at 9:42 am to
i wrote a long post calling out my leftist friends who were silent after Berkeley to tell them they have no moral standing to say anything about Virginia, especially since we don't even know which group started the violence (history and logic say it was the left "counter protest")

but i deleted it

may turn it into a thread after i shower
Posted by ILeaveAtHalftime
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 8/13/17 at 9:42 am to
^^^ it's completely nonsensical
This post was edited on 8/13/17 at 9:43 am
Posted by Champagne
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Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 8/13/17 at 9:45 am to
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Call them both out by name them Don't release trite statements and "lead" just like Obama did Yes, I'm saying he acted like Obama today


You are angry today because Trump condemned hate, bigotry and violence, but didn't use the EXACT words and phrases that you say he should have used?

Seems petty, Douches Maximus.
Posted by skullhawk
My house
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 8/13/17 at 9:45 am to
Trump doesn't want to legitimize the racists. Right libs? I mean, that's how you say we should handle hate groups. Right out of the Obama playbook.

Maybe he could take it a step further and say the driver's motivations are complex. That would be disgusting, wouldn't it?
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
55454 posts
Posted on 8/13/17 at 9:48 am to
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Trump doesn't want to legitimize the racists. Right libs? I mean, that's how you say we should handle hate groups. Right out of the Obama playbook.


I was so close to starting a thread about this.

It amazes me how someone can admit they are killing in the name of Islam, but the left loses their mind if you say they killed bc of their religion. We have to use phrases like "work place violence" instead.

But this? Yeah, this HAS to be called something. It HAS to use terms that outline their domestic enemy.
Posted by Pussykat
South Louisiana
Member since Oct 2016
3889 posts
Posted on 8/13/17 at 9:49 am to
Thought he did that
Posted by GaryMyMan
Shreveport
Member since May 2007
13499 posts
Posted on 8/13/17 at 9:51 am to
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and a lefty who hated Donald Trump and loved Bernie

Holy shite you're an idiot. His mental illness renders any political affiliations meaningless. Now I understand why you have so much time to post online: clients prefer counsel with at least half a brain. frickin dingus.
This post was edited on 8/13/17 at 9:55 am
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 8/13/17 at 9:56 am to
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GEAUXmedic


Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54755 posts
Posted on 8/13/17 at 10:01 am to
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As was the guy who shot up the baseball field...

As was the guy who shot up the gay club....

As was the guy who shot up his office in CA...

As was the guy who shot up the base in TX...




Nope.
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
55454 posts
Posted on 8/13/17 at 10:01 am to
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Holy shite you're an idiot. His mental illness renders any political affiliations meaningless.


Yup. Thanks for proving many points above.

But this guy in Virginia, if proven mentally ill, won't matter.

This is a fun game you have set up for your violent ilk.
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