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re: Trump Lawyer diGenova to Take Over Miami Grand Conspiracy Probe
Posted on 4/18/26 at 9:37 pm to AlterEd
Posted on 4/18/26 at 9:37 pm to AlterEd
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Because the Mar-a-Lago raid was one of the first outcomes of the conspiracy to violate Donald Trump's civil rights.
But you have to craft the conspiracy from that backwards, which isn't impossible, but it is close to it.
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Posted on 4/18/26 at 9:38 pm to David_DJS
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So let's assume that Bronco is 100% accurate in what he's posted. It was a concerted effort, based on known lies/distortions, to subvert Trump's presidency.
That's not possible. Trump wasn't President at any point during that process.
Most of it occurred before Trump was even the official nomination for the Republican Party.
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That's A-OK, nothing to see here?
We talking in terms of dirty politics or criminality? There is a huge difference.
Posted on 4/18/26 at 9:40 pm to SlowFlowPro
He was the candidate when he was approached by Admiral Rogers
Posted on 4/18/26 at 9:41 pm to SlowFlowPro
They were also spying on his transition team
Posted on 4/18/26 at 9:42 pm to lsuguy84
I said most of it
But the point was people are confusing Trump's campaign with his Presidency.
Similar to the laptop thread, where people are confusing similar things.
But the point was people are confusing Trump's campaign with his Presidency.
Similar to the laptop thread, where people are confusing similar things.
Posted on 4/18/26 at 9:42 pm to SlowFlowPro
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That's not possible. Trump wasn't President at any point during that process.
Most of it occurred before Trump was even the official nomination for the Republican Party.
What was the effort designed to do? And why did it live on well into the Trump presidency?
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We talking in terms of dirty politics or criminality
Criminality.
So Trump hates Adam Schiff. He could have directed his CIA to plant kiddie porn (probably right next to the existing kiddie porn) on Schiff's laptop and then had it discovered by the FBI. That may be dirty politics, but it's legal?
Posted on 4/18/26 at 9:44 pm to David_DJS
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And why did it live on well into the Trump presidency?
This is where the conspiracy allegations get wonky.
And a lot of this was perpetuated by the Trump admin's own special counsel, Robert Mueller, which, as I pointed out earlier, ends the prior conspiracy allegations.
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So Trump hates Adam Schiff. He could have directed his CIA to plant kiddie porn (probably right next to the existing kiddie porn) on Schiff's laptop and then had it discovered by the FBI. That may be dirty politics, but it's legal?
Some of us warned people what this level of immunity could do in real time during that case.
Posted on 4/18/26 at 9:48 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Some of us warned people what this level of immunity could do in real time during that case
So you're suggesting it would be legal? Presidential authority allows the administration to commit felonies with impunity.
Posted on 4/18/26 at 9:48 pm to SlowFlowPro
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But you have to craft the conspiracy from that backwards, which isn't impossible, but it is close to it.
FISA works both ways. I'll betcha they have what they need.
Posted on 4/18/26 at 9:50 pm to SlowFlowPro
Which is why we also mentioned it will partially blow Trump’s own case out of the water if he was re-elected. He won a battle but likely lost the war.
Are these individual cases able to be litigated? Yes, but the “certainty” at which people are predicting supposed outcomes is laughable when some precedents have been set.
Are these individual cases able to be litigated? Yes, but the “certainty” at which people are predicting supposed outcomes is laughable when some precedents have been set.
Posted on 4/18/26 at 9:55 pm to SlowFlowPro
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I'm not a DEM
Well we all know that is a lie
Posted on 4/18/26 at 10:00 pm to Bronco11
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2) that fall, the Intel agencies all clarified, particularly the CIA, there was no collusion.
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4) Obama ordered the IC to put together an ICA that said the opposite and they buried that PDB.
Not really correct, and people always do this. And I think it matters. Here is what the ICA actually said:
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The ODNI records released on Friday, Senator Chuck Grassley’s release on Monday of the appendix to the DOJ OIG’s June 2018 report known as the “Clinton annex,” and the HPSCI oversight report released today confirm a treasonous conspiracy led by President Obama and his national security team, including James Clapper, John Brennan, and James Comey, to manipulate and manufacture intelligence that promoted a contrived false narrative falsely claiming: “Putin aspired to help President-elect Trump’s election chances, when possible, by discrediting Secretary Clinton.”
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Trump and Russia colluded is vastly different from Putin tried to help Russia.
This post was edited on 4/18/26 at 10:09 pm
Posted on 4/18/26 at 10:04 pm to baybeefeetz
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For what? These are verified facts.
Posted on 4/18/26 at 10:09 pm to Sweep Da Leg
Nope. What you’re saying is the internet retard interpretation of the facts. No offense.
Posted on 4/19/26 at 8:56 am to SlowFlowPro
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Who appointed Mueller kills the ability to rationally argue that's a node in the conspiracy. The fact Mueller gave Trump one of his biggest Ws in Trump's 1st admin completely destroys the argument.
This is where I personally believe that you are wrong. Who appointed the person means nothing. The provable actions of that person are the driving force.
RE SOL: there are new public revelations showing who knew what and when. With very new piece of information, the conspiracy is strengthened/proven. As more info becomes public, you can bet that there is 10X that amount of info not yet being publicized.
Posted on 4/19/26 at 8:58 am to Screaming Viking
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Who appointed the person means nothing.
How can it be part of a larger conspiracy if the Trump admin appointed him?
Who was Mueller conspiring with in the larger conspiracy, exactly?
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The provable actions of that person are the driving force.
No. You have to connect Mueller to the other alleged co-conspirators.
Posted on 4/19/26 at 9:05 am to SlowFlowPro
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How can it be part of a larger conspiracy if the Trump admin appointed him?
You're wrong in this thread too.
Who appointed him means nothing. It doesn't absolve him of guilt in conspiring with others in a seditious conspiracy.
Posted on 4/19/26 at 9:16 am to AlterEd
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It doesn't absolve him of guilt in conspiring with others in a seditious conspiracy.
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Who appointed him means nothing.
1. How did he conspire with others if he was appointed by the admin?
2. Assuming the sedition was based around allegations of collusion with Russia, how did Mueller engage in seditious conspiracy when his report effectively exonerated Trump and gave Trump a decisive W in the collusion debate?
Posted on 4/19/26 at 9:19 am to SlowFlowPro
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1. How did he conspire with others if he was appointed by the admin?
There are these things called telephones. I'm sure you've heard of them. People also talk to one another face to face sometimes too. Email. Smoke signals. Two cans with a bit of string between them. Etc.
Posted on 4/19/26 at 9:19 am to AlterEd
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frequently advanced false conspiracy theories
Translation: "He tells the truth and we hate it!"
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