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re: Trump Lawyer diGenova to Take Over Miami Grand Conspiracy Probe

Posted on 4/18/26 at 8:41 pm to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/18/26 at 8:41 pm to
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Name some that have not been proven right.


Trump being the antichrist
Trump being a pawn of Epstein
The Dossier/Russian Collusion
All the 5G/Covid ones
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/18/26 at 8:43 pm to
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How does this work? Who determines what's an executive function

You just look at the core roles of the executive.

Obama heads all of the intelligence agencies and all of their functions are executive functions. He's 100% immune for any actions taken in this sphere, which includes the allegations alleged.

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and is there any limitation to that immunity?

Not if it's a core duty.

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Absolute Immunity: Applies to "conclusive and preclusive" core constitutional powers. This immunity exists regardless of the president's motive, even if actions are alleged to be part of a conspiracy or done for a corrupt purpose.


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Presumptive Immunity: Applies to other official acts falling within the "outer perimeter" of official responsibility.
Posted by Screaming Viking
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 4/18/26 at 8:45 pm to
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Mueller was appointed by Trump's admin.


So is it who appointed him, or the SOL?
Posted by PastorJ
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Posted on 4/18/26 at 8:46 pm to
People still doing this Q nonsense?
Posted by AlterEd
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Posted on 4/18/26 at 8:49 pm to
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People still doing this Q nonsense?


Yeah. The White House and the Department of Labor.

I just like pointing out when Q said shite that seems to have correlation with what is happening today. Which happens quite often.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/18/26 at 8:49 pm to
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So is it who appointed him, or the SOL?


What a strange question. I'll try to educate you.

To get around the SOL (and venue/jurisdiction rules), they're arguing a conspiracy. They're citing Mueller's appointment as a node in that conspiracy to connect that behavior prior to and successive to the appointment.

Who appointed Mueller kills the ability to rationally argue that's a node in the conspiracy. The fact Mueller gave Trump one of his biggest Ws in Trump's 1st admin completely destroys the argument.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
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Posted on 4/18/26 at 9:02 pm to
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You just look at the core roles of the executive.

Obama heads all of the intelligence agencies and all of their functions are executive functions. He's 100% immune for any actions taken in this sphere, which includes the allegations alleged

It doesn't matter what the agency (or executive) is doing? That seems off and seems to suggest there is nothing the CIA can do that's illegal.
Posted by AlterEd
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Posted on 4/18/26 at 9:02 pm to
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BREAKING: A senior DOJ official told me hard-charging new Russiagate hoax prosecutor Joe diGenova was set to be hired a year ago but "[Deputy AG] Todd [Blanche] didn't let it happen." "It was supposed to be done in the first months of the administration, but Todd blocked it," the official said. "POTUS is forcing action."

DiGenova, who starts Monday in the Southern District of Florida where a grand jury is hearing a "grand conspiracy" case targeting John Brennan and other suspected anti-Trump Russiagate co-conspirators, will have the title of "counselor to the attorney general." The US attorney there is working under special Sec. 515 authority.


Blanche needs to be replaced ASAP.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/18/26 at 9:10 pm to
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That seems off and seems to suggest there is nothing the CIA can do that's illegal.


The CIA =\= the President

But how far this immunity extends to following direct orders is yet to be determined.
Posted by lsuguy84
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Posted on 4/18/26 at 9:16 pm to
The CIA runs drugs, money, weapons, overthrows countries, and basically does what it wants. There is basically nothing the CIA does that is illegal.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
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Posted on 4/18/26 at 9:19 pm to
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The CIA =\= the President

But as long as the president is onboard, the CIA = the President where the legality of its actions are concerned?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/18/26 at 9:21 pm to
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But as long as the president is onboard, the CIA = the President where the legality of its actions are concerned?


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But how far this immunity extends to following direct orders is yet to be determined.
Posted by AlterEd
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Posted on 4/18/26 at 9:22 pm to
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
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Posted on 4/18/26 at 9:27 pm to
Yes, I recall - but I'm bringing this back to the president and who decides what's an executive function. I think you're arguing (telll me if I've misread) that Obama and possibly/likely CIA officials involved, can run dirty tricks designed to weaken the next president.
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 4/18/26 at 9:27 pm to
Why is Blanche the acting AG if he was blocking this guy from taking down Brennan all along?
Posted by boosiebadazz
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Posted on 4/18/26 at 9:29 pm to
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that Obama and possibly/likely CIA officials involved, can run dirty tricks designed to weaken the next president.


Is it a dirty trick or is it the deliberative process?
Posted by AlterEd
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Posted on 4/18/26 at 9:30 pm to
I don't know. But there is video in this article of diGenova explaining why the case needs to be brought in Florida.

Just the News

Because the Mar-a-Lago raid was one of the first outcomes of the conspiracy to violate Donald Trump's civil rights.
This post was edited on 4/18/26 at 9:32 pm
Posted by lsuguy84
Madisonville
Member since Feb 2009
27401 posts
Posted on 4/18/26 at 9:33 pm to
Neither likely matters when you introduce “risk of national security”. That gives the government the full weight to topple foreign entities or destroy Joe Breaux in Houma. FISA being a good example. Also why I find it interesting Trump hasn’t removed this tool. It’s the perfect double-edged sword for any leader. They’re not going to roll back that power once they have used it.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477219 posts
Posted on 4/18/26 at 9:35 pm to
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I think you're arguing (telll me if I've misread) that Obama and possibly/likely CIA officials involved, can run dirty tricks designed to weaken the next president.


Did you forget these stories after the ruling?

The Nation: The President Can Now Assassinate You, Officially

The Hill: A frightening thought experiment: A murderous president with criminal immunity
This post was edited on 4/18/26 at 9:36 pm
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
22765 posts
Posted on 4/18/26 at 9:36 pm to
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Obama heads all of the intelligence agencies and all of their functions are executive functions. He's 100% immune for any actions taken in this sphere, which includes the allegations alleged.

So let's assume that Bronco is 100% accurate in what he's posted. It was a concerted effort, based on known lies/distortions, to subvert Trump's presidency.

That's A-OK, nothing to see here?
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