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re: Trump Jr.'s Russia meeting a Democratic plot? Pro-Trump media wants you to think so

Posted on 7/15/17 at 10:05 am to
Posted by Rakim
Member since Nov 2015
9954 posts
Posted on 7/15/17 at 10:05 am to
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No, no it is not


Again, if it's not then why so many lawyers?

Do people actually believe Kushner and Don Jr were acting on their own when it comes to meeting with Russian officials?
Posted by Wolfhound45
Member since Nov 2009
126648 posts
Posted on 7/15/17 at 10:07 am to
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Again, if it's not then why so many lawyers?
DC drama baw. Nothing is going to come of it.

Was he stupid to even entertain this? Sure. Will any charges be referrred? Yeah, the same day we demonstrate the "intent" of Hillary Rodham Clinton.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
46325 posts
Posted on 7/15/17 at 10:08 am to
Dont play stupid.

They filed reams of disclosures by law.

Whatever they neglected to disclose couldn't be found by the IC, media research teams, British intelligence, Ukranian intelligence, and even the wise and powerful Rakim.

When you strip away all of the bullshite, all you have is some con artists who met with Jr for 20 minutes to talk about adoption. It only "looks bad" because the media has created this enormous narrative about trump being a Russian agent built on exactly nothing.
Posted by Rakim
Member since Nov 2015
9954 posts
Posted on 7/15/17 at 10:09 am to
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Maybe, just maybe, you've fallen for the media hysteria about trump and russia.


Here is the question and I want to get the most honest answer I can from you guys. At what point do you guys stop defending Trumps lies because you're in Clinton supporter territory just to let you know.

It's hard to see it when you have so much invested in a candidate and that's why you should be loyal to the platform not the candidate.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
74509 posts
Posted on 7/15/17 at 10:09 am to
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Do people actually believe Kushner and Don Jr were acting on their own when it comes to meeting with Russian officials?


In business its called delegating.

In politics its called plausible deniability.

So yes. Its very possible.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
34207 posts
Posted on 7/15/17 at 10:12 am to
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At what point do you guys stop defending Trumps lies



You be honest and say what exactly you think happened and what should be done about it.

Because I don't think anything happened and nothing should be done about it, and everything else is just noise.

Posted by Wolfhound45
Member since Nov 2009
126648 posts
Posted on 7/15/17 at 10:13 am to
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At what point do you guys stop defending Trumps lies...
At the point I see real issues at stake. When I can see correlation in regards to the accusations that have been leveled at him. So far all I see is bluster and blather. And an unwillingness to simply admit that Hillary Rodham Clinton was an abysmal candidate.
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 7/15/17 at 10:13 am to
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Do people actually believe Kushner and Don Jr were acting on their own when it comes to meeting with Russian officials?
Some do. I'm quite sure Trump knew about it, as he announced on July 7 that he was going to make a yuge speech about Clinton's nefarious activity the following Monday. The yuge speech never happened. But sure, there's plausible deniability.
Posted by Rakim
Member since Nov 2015
9954 posts
Posted on 7/15/17 at 10:15 am to
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Dont play stupid.


I guess that's the difference between the 2 of us

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When you strip away all of the bullshite, all you have is some con artists who met with Jr for 20 minutes to talk about adoption. It only "looks bad" because the media has created this enormous narrative about trump being a Russian agent built on exactly nothing


Wrong, it looks bad because Trump Jr was attempting to collude with Russian Agents.
This post was edited on 7/15/17 at 10:28 am
Posted by Wolfhound45
Member since Nov 2009
126648 posts
Posted on 7/15/17 at 10:17 am to
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Do people actually believe Kushner and Don Jr were acting on their own when it comes to meeting with Russian officials?
I think that DJT ran one of the worst campaigns I have ever seen in my life. That it lurched from drama to drama to drama with no coherent, consistent message. Horrible organization across the board. So I absolutely believe it is possible that these two men went on their own. It is also a possibility they did it with the tacit knowledge of DJT. In the end does it matter? Nope. Because nothing happened at the meeting.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
85510 posts
Posted on 7/15/17 at 10:17 am to
I would meet with Satan if he had dirt on Hillionaire, so would she if Satan offered dirt on Trump.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
34207 posts
Posted on 7/15/17 at 10:17 am to
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looks bad


It's not good from a PR standpoint, but that is the extent of it. Congrats, you finally got them on something: a public relations misstep.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
74509 posts
Posted on 7/15/17 at 10:17 am to
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I guess that's the difference between the 2 of us


Posted by Wolfhound45
Member since Nov 2009
126648 posts
Posted on 7/15/17 at 10:17 am to
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Wrong, it looks bad because Trump Jr was attempting to collide with Russian Agents.


You never cease to entertain
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
46325 posts
Posted on 7/15/17 at 10:20 am to
If you can't see what's happening here and how it is a direct assault against our republic, then maybe you are hopeless.


An outsider makes it to the white house because people are sick of the bullshite, and the minute he's elected, a magical conspiracy theory pops out of the earth and the media carries it for months with no evidence.

Our own IC hasn't even examined the dnc servers for Christ sakes. We don't even know for sure who hacked them. The establishment is obviously trying to take down a sitting president and you are falling right into the fly paper.

Meanwhile, look what is being ignored:
Dems trying to hack the elections of several states
Dems using the IRS to attack conservative non profits
Dems hacking reporters who don't write nice things about them
Dems colluding with the media to rig the primary
Reporters allowing dems pols to edit their reporting.
Dem contractors faking physical assaults and admitting to voter fraud
Dems illegally unmasking Americans without due process
The deep state engaged in felony leaks

And you are here losing hair over a 20 minute meeting about nothing.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
94157 posts
Posted on 7/15/17 at 10:20 am to
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Wrong, it looks bad because Trump Jr was attempting to collide with Russian Agents.


Collide? at what you really meant to say
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
74509 posts
Posted on 7/15/17 at 10:25 am to
Since many are crying to the high heavens that this is a crisis and a matter of national security why cannot the DNC server be seized and examined under the same reasoning?

Posted by Rakim
Member since Nov 2015
9954 posts
Posted on 7/15/17 at 10:29 am to
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Since many are crying to the high heavens that this is a crisis and a matter of national security why cannot the DNC server be seized and examined under the same reasoning?


It should be...
Posted by Wolfhound45
Member since Nov 2009
126648 posts
Posted on 7/15/17 at 10:31 am to
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It should be...
And yet it is not. Wonder why that is? Should provide a treasure trove of data that can demonstrate correlation on a myriad of collusion accusations (time material was accessed, time it was released by outside agencies, et al). Should make for a slam dunk case of Russian involvement.

And yet it remains on the shelf.
This post was edited on 7/15/17 at 10:32 am
Posted by Rakim
Member since Nov 2015
9954 posts
Posted on 7/15/17 at 10:32 am to
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And you are here losing hair over a 20 minute meeting about nothing.


It's relevant just like all the other things you listed. But I'm not going to let Trump off the hook because Hillary got off.
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