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Trump Is 100% Vindicated On Wiretapping, and 7 Other Things You Should Know
Posted on 3/23/17 at 12:04 pm
Posted on 3/23/17 at 12:04 pm
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https://www.dailywire.com/news/14717/trump-100-vindicated-wiretapping-and-7-other-john-nolte#.WNPlSzSD4c4.facebook
OBAMAGATE
8 Things You Should Know...
1. Yes, Trump Is 100% Vindicated On Wiretapping
2. "Incidental Collection," My Aunt Fanny
3. Obama's Creepy History of Manipulating the FISA System
4. This Was Political Spying; This Was a Successful Watergate Bugging
5. The National Media Knew All of This and Covered It Up
6. Devin Nunes Handled This Exactly Right
7. CNN Is a Deep State Propaganda Arm
8. The F.B.I. Investigation Into RussiaGate Is Now Tainted
Why was Trump 100% Vindicated
As far as the THIS WASN'T A WIRETAP nonsense, it reminds me of someone accusing a 70-year-old (Trump's age) of lying when he claims someone stole his record collection after the bad guy is found only with the old man's iPod. You said records! Where's the vinyl! Where's the vinyl! Where's the vinyl!
Not for a second did I imagine Trump meant an actual physical phone tap -- you know, like you'd see Mike Connors do on "Mannix." Welcome to the 21st Century, pedants!
Anyway, if we're going to obsess over definitions, this is an excerpt from a 2010 MIT book called "Privacy On The Line," which clearly shows that the word "wiretap" fits the exact definition we are talking about:
Wiretapping is the traditional term for interception of telephone conversations. This should not be taken too literally. The word is no longer restricted to communications traveling by wire, and contemporary wiretaps are more commonly placed on radio links [ed. cell phones] or inside telephone offices. The meaning has also broadened in that the thing being tapped need no longer be a telephone call in the classic sense; it may be some other form of electronic communication, such as a fax or data.
Compared with the more precise but more general phrase "communications interception," the word "wiretapping" has two connotations. Much the strong of these is that a wiretap is aimed at a particular target, in sharp contrast to the "vacuum cleaner" interception widely practiced by national intelligence agencies. The weaker connotation is that it is being done by the police. [ed. Big hat tip to Stuart Dean]
And that is precisely what the Obama administration did. I'll make this point clearer below, but for now put yourself in Trump's shoes…
1) The leaking is everywhere, including Mike Flynn's telephone calls and the President's own calls with foreign leaders.
2) The media knows about all the palace intrigue.
3) Media report after media report actually reveal that the Obama administration obtained surveillance warrants on you and/or your team. The New York Times reports that the Obama White House is looking at your "wiretap intel."
So, yes, unless you want to argue with MIT or become so painfully literal we all have to talk like a Vulcan, Trump was 100% correct about Obama "tapping his wires." Incidentally or not, his wires were tapped, and then the surveillance was intentionally made not-so incidental through the illegal act of unmasking, disseminating, and worst of all, the horrific act of leaking classified information to the media for purely partisan purposes.
And according to no less than CNN, it was Trump's transition team that was "picked up," and where was his transition team?
Trump Tower.
Surveillance/ Check
Posted on 3/23/17 at 12:06 pm to Rakim
Read this earlier. It's a great read.
Posted on 3/23/17 at 12:11 pm to Rakim
Putin approves this message, because RUSSIA!!!!!!!!!
Posted on 3/23/17 at 12:29 pm to Rakim
You don't have to try to define wiretap. Trump defined it himself in the two tweets Trump lovers keep ignoring (unless by spelling "tap" wrong, Trump meant something other than tap). And the intercepted communications were intercepted by people eavesdropping on the Russians, which they have done for fricking ever. The reason Trump associates are on the communications is because they were talking with the Russians. That that has been cited as vindication for Trump's claim that Obama is a "bad" or "sick" guy because he ordered Trump wire tapped (or surveilled) is fricking laughable ... but not surprising.
Posted on 3/23/17 at 12:49 pm to Awesome Dave
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You don't have to try to define wiretap. Trump defined it himself in the two tweets Trump lovers keep ignoring (unless by spelling "tap" wrong, Trump meant something other than tap). And the intercepted communications were intercepted by people eavesdropping on the Russians, which they have done for fricking ever. The reason Trump associates are on the communications is because they were talking with the Russians. That that has been cited as vindication for Trump's claim that Obama is a "bad" or "sick" guy because he ordered Trump wire tapped (or surveilled) is fricking laughable ... but not surprising.
Hey Dave, it appears youre not so awesome after all. Things we now know (per CNN)
quote:
Trump defined it himself
And so has the FISA court for the last 42 years. They use the same wording when granting permissions to spy on Americans
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And the intercepted communications were intercepted by people eavesdropping on the Russians, The reason Trump associates are on the communications is because they were talking with the Russians.
Ouch, that's just not true. The transcripts that are being seen don't involve Russians
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Trump's claim that Obama is a "bad" or "sick" guy because he ordered Trump wire tapped (or surveilled) is fricking laughable
Well, then youre not gonna wanna hear this one, because its probably gonna leave a mark. But here goes. Not only do the transcripts include Trump, but also include Trumps family. That's both bad and sick. And they were delivered to the WH. Ya know, where Obama was living at the time?
Heres probably you right now:
Posted on 3/23/17 at 1:00 pm to Midget Death Squad
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Putin approves this message, because RUSSIA!!!!!!!!!
So you're saying you have a direct line to Putin? Hmmmm.
Posted on 3/23/17 at 1:00 pm to Awesome Dave
quote:Bet they intercepted Clinton's team communicating with the Russians also, "Not So" Awesome Dave.
eavesdropping on the Russians
Posted on 3/23/17 at 1:16 pm to Rakim
Trump: "Obama wiretapped my phones before the election!"
Trumpkins: "Obviously what Trump meant was that the Obama administration incidentally collected information on Trump associates while they were talking to foreign officials during the transition after the election"
Trumpkins: "Obviously what Trump meant was that the Obama administration incidentally collected information on Trump associates while they were talking to foreign officials during the transition after the election"
Posted on 3/23/17 at 1:19 pm to Salmon
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Trumpkins: "Obviously what Trump meant was that the Obama administration incidentally collected information on Trump associates while they were talking to foreign officials during the transition after the election"
uh, you left out the part where it had nothing to do with Russians. It included Trump, and his family, and was delivered to the White House, and not destroyed as required by law
Wonder why you would do that?
Posted on 3/23/17 at 1:21 pm to Salmon
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incidentally
Allegedly
Posted on 3/23/17 at 1:23 pm to Salmon
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Trumpkins: "Obviously what Trump meant was that the Obama administration incidentally collected information on Trump associates while they were talking to foreign officials during the transition after the election"
They're just following the lead of Easy D
Posted on 3/23/17 at 1:24 pm to RobbBobb
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uh, you left out the part where it had nothing to do with Russians. It included Trump, and his family, and was delivered to the White House, and not destroyed as required by law
and Trump left out like 99% of relevant information in his claims
Wonder why he would do that?
Posted on 3/23/17 at 1:24 pm to MrLarson
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Allegedly
everything is alleged at the moment, no?
Posted on 3/23/17 at 1:27 pm to Salmon
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everything is alleged at the moment, no?
I can't confirm or deny that.
Posted on 3/23/17 at 1:27 pm to Awesome Dave
Complaining about semantics is like coming to the south and getting upset at hearing someone say they got a coke out of the fridge when they really drank a Dr. Pepper. "Coke" is used to refer to all carbonated sodas just like "wiretap" is used to refer to all serviellance of intercepted communications.
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