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re: Trump: income taxes will be substantially reduced, maybe even completely eliminated

Posted on 4/27/25 at 1:37 pm to
Posted by OccamsStubble
Member since Aug 2019
10082 posts
Posted on 4/27/25 at 1:37 pm to
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He’s already in office in his last term. He’s not politicking for votes.


Then there’s no reason to do this. Jindal tried cut tax but don’t cut spending.

When there is no longer a deficit, then cut taxes at will. That’s 2T per year away.
Posted by AGGIES
Member since Jul 2021
12319 posts
Posted on 4/27/25 at 1:38 pm to
Feel free to present counter evidence if you have it.

You think we’ll be lucky enough to get one fiscal year of a budget surplus this term?
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 4/27/25 at 1:40 pm to
Clinton had one surplus.

It was a shell game.

They moved gov payments from the last day of the month to the 1st.

Fiscal year starts 1 Oct that's how they ended a one year surplus.

By shoving it from 30 September to 1 Oct.
This post was edited on 4/27/25 at 1:42 pm
Posted by CharlesLSU
Member since Jan 2007
33653 posts
Posted on 4/27/25 at 1:43 pm to
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I'll believe it when I see it.


100%

Talk is cheap.
Posted by AGGIES
Member since Jul 2021
12319 posts
Posted on 4/27/25 at 1:43 pm to
Ha, weird that that’s not common knowledge. So, I guess that’s pretty terrible governance compared to the budget geniuses that we’ve got going these past several administrations.
Posted by RohanGonzales
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Posted on 4/27/25 at 1:44 pm to
I knew this would make the lefties froth.
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
90572 posts
Posted on 4/27/25 at 1:44 pm to
I remember Newt Gringrich being pretty proud of the shell game along with Elvis from Arkansas.

Posted by AGGIES
Member since Jul 2021
12319 posts
Posted on 4/27/25 at 1:49 pm to
I’ll give them credit for trying
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
90572 posts
Posted on 4/27/25 at 1:52 pm to
It gave them what they wanted.

A talking point.

Posted by Figgy
CenCal
Member since May 2020
10345 posts
Posted on 4/27/25 at 1:52 pm to
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Or what if tariffs “work” and imports drop? Magic tariffs are the best!


Shhh. You're gonna cause trouble.
Posted by AGGIES
Member since Jul 2021
12319 posts
Posted on 4/27/25 at 1:55 pm to
Cheap talking points are the absolute worst…
Posted by DTRooster
Belle River, La
Member since Dec 2013
9051 posts
Posted on 4/27/25 at 2:01 pm to
Of course they will after 45 years of paying that shite
Posted by GusAU
Member since Mar 2014
4979 posts
Posted on 4/27/25 at 2:03 pm to
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Bait for the libtards.
EVERYTHING he says is bait for the libtards.
Posted by Westbank111
Armpit of America
Member since Sep 2013
4592 posts
Posted on 4/27/25 at 2:11 pm to
They just need to do it where the “1st $200,000 is exempt for everyone”.

Putting that bar in between isn’t right for folks around that threshold but not much income than $200k, should be across the board if they do that.

And #1- I will not be happy or suffice until they kick us back a large % of REPARATIONS “Pro-Rata/ not some DOGE stimulus for $6k to everyone, a refund” based on what individuals and business owners have paid into the ponzu scheme.

Chelsea Clinton $10M house
$1-2M weddings, this fraud is pissing me off more and more each day.

The same evil pricks that has been stealing from us, are the same Cabal that created and released bio-weapons on us & then forced people to take the Vax. The long term effects on families are not even calculated right now,

What other country prints money
Taxes the crap out of their citizens
Raises our Cost of Living
Has homeless veterans
And all the while, we are throwing money all around the world that boomerangs back To these scumbags offshore bank accounts.

Until the Fed Gov reimburses the losses for small business owners and hard working tax payers and we get our money back, I won’t be satisfied.

Sorry for the rant,

BUT ONE LAST POINT.

Who TF do we owe?

Who owns the Fed Reserve?

Why do we allow them to loan & collect predatory interest on FIAT MONEY That doesn’t even exist & is backed by the tax payers / debtors on the money if it defaults.

They loan out $9 to $10 for every physical deposit on hand.

So if you have $100,000 in your bank account, they will loan out $900k-$1Million and collect interest on that money based on a a piece of paper / contract that is not even constitutional.

Pre-1913, NO IRS
Gov’t funded by tariffs, so that’s where we need to get back to, but can’t act like we can move forward without being reimbursed.
Posted by Seldom Seen
Member since Feb 2016
48737 posts
Posted on 4/27/25 at 2:36 pm to
So if the tariffs are going to bring back manufacturing and people start buying their products that are made in America then where is that tariff money gonna come from?

Also he can't get rid of income tax only Congress can do that. He's making promises he can't keep cause he knows his tariffs are unpopular.

Posted by Chrome
Chromeville
Member since Nov 2007
13295 posts
Posted on 4/27/25 at 2:38 pm to
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Yep. Or going back even further:

“Read my lips. No new taxes.”


Damn.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
22720 posts
Posted on 4/27/25 at 2:45 pm to
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Also he can't get rid of income tax only Congress can do that. He's making promises he can't keep cause he knows his tariffs are unpopular.

I don't give a frick as long as he deports like a motherfricker and keeps making liberals look like the retards they are.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
95637 posts
Posted on 4/27/25 at 2:55 pm to
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Feel free to present counter evidence if you have it.



The budget "surplus" was accounting fiction. Give Clinton and Newt credit for getting near balance, but that was about it.

My evidence that we never actually ran a literal surplus is that the debt never went down in any year of the Clinton presidency. The last full FY of the Clinton era saw that debt rise from ~$5.656T to $5.674T. If that was a surplus, why did we have to borrow an additional $18B?

This post was edited on 4/27/25 at 2:56 pm
Posted by Fat Bastard
alter hunter
Member since Mar 2009
91083 posts
Posted on 4/27/25 at 2:58 pm to
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Correct, this is what pisses me off. Those of us that pay most of the taxes get fricked in any cuts.


but muh democrats said its only tax cuts for the rich!!
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
49682 posts
Posted on 4/27/25 at 3:02 pm to
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Ok so what are people making over $200k going to be paying?


Correct, this is what pisses me off. Those of us that pay most of the taxes get fricked in any cuts.


I have never understood the mentality of the left of wanting to tax the shite out of higher earners. I make no where near 200K but IMO if there are going to be cuts they should spread across the board. The high earners work for their money just like the poorest do.
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