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re: Trump: Don’t Worry About China, Xi just had a bad moment

Posted on 10/12/25 at 10:39 pm to
Posted by ChatGPT of LA
Member since Mar 2023
4663 posts
Posted on 10/12/25 at 10:39 pm to
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Is the art of the deal


The art is making moves that completely befuddled idiots like you who would have balked at Xhinas action
Posted by nvasil1
Hellinois
Member since Oct 2009
17480 posts
Posted on 10/12/25 at 11:31 pm to
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I can't think of any other reason you would think a tv reality star is more qualified than an Ivy league lawyer

I love that progs still think "TV reality star" is a diss.

Trump only had his own reality show because he was already a world-famous businessman, and Democrats and the legacy media loved him.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
37626 posts
Posted on 10/13/25 at 1:16 am to
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Ok my gosh, wow. You can’t be serious. I wasn’t taught that in the first F$@(king grade. Most of the founding fathers were lawyers. This made them good at writing legal documents. Such as the bill of rights and Declaration of Independence.
I can’t seem to remember them arranging any trade agreements with any country other than asking France for help and $. Golly, that makes them great economists. Enough said. I will hang up and listen now while u teach the class.
That’s a laughable argument. Who exactly were they supposed to negotiate with when the country wasn’t recognized, had no standing, no currency, and no credit?

Before you can negotiate trade, you have to create the conditions that make trade possible. You need a few bare minimums. Like a functioning government, money, a system for collecting taxes, a line of credit. They built that from the ground up while funding and fighting a war and holding thirteen rival colonies together.

You’re dismissing their economic understanding based on an arbitrary standard of your own creation that they didn’t sign enough foreign contracts, while ignoring the fact that they set in motion the most powerful economic engine in history. And instead you credit that achievement to them just being pretty good paralegals?

Holy shite.
Posted by AUJACK
Member since Sep 2020
1049 posts
Posted on 10/13/25 at 1:50 am to
I know TACO was a dem talking point that all the weak dems pushed for a day, but I cannot remember what it was supposed to mean. I guess it did not stick.

It certainly did not work as well as this:

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This will never get old.

Posted by whereishobson
Member since Dec 2012
401 posts
Posted on 10/13/25 at 2:07 am to
Word salad.
I’m not dismissing. There is no evidence of, Dookie implies that the founding fathers were good at economics. There is no way to tell. However as a betting man I would assume a business man who studied economics as part of his degree requirements would be more aware of the concepts of economics than someone who was never required to take an economics course to complete their professional learning. The whole argument of sotero being better with the economy than a business man has been proven incorrect.

I am not the one making the argument. Dookie was arguing that sotero knew how to run a better economy than trump bc he was a lawyer and that lawyers were good at running economies because the founding fathers were lawyers.

Holy shite, where’s the damn Tylenol!
This post was edited on 10/13/25 at 2:20 am
Posted by BHS78
Member since May 2017
3482 posts
Posted on 10/13/25 at 4:12 am to
What was the unemployment rate for AA's under 44
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
37626 posts
Posted on 10/13/25 at 4:18 am to
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Word salad.
I’m not dismissing. There is no evidence of, Dookie implies that the founding fathers were good at economics. There is no way to tell. However as a betting man I would assume a business man who studied economics as part of his degree requirements would be more aware of the concepts of economics than someone who was never required to take an economics course to complete their professional learning. The whole argument of sotero being better with the economy than a business man has been proven incorrect.

I am not the one making the argument. Dookie was arguing that sotero knew how to run a better economy than trump bc he was a lawyer and that lawyers were good at running economies because the founding fathers were lawyers.


You seem to need a quick refresher on what you actually said:
quote:

“Most of the Founding Fathers were lawyers. This made them good at writing legal documents… I can’t seem to remember them arranging any trade agreements with any country other than asking France for help and $. Golly, that makes them great economists.”


Your point is clear enough: the Founders’ grasp of economics somehow ranks below a guy with a business degree from Troy State, somehow crediting modern business majors with more economic sense than the men who designed the financial and institutional framework that made our economy possible.

That’s the argument I responded to. Nothing about Trump, Obama, or any other modern politician. My post addressed your specific claim (quoted above if you need to check again) and explained that before you can negotiate trade, you have to create the conditions that make trade possible: government, currency, taxation, and credit.

You came back with “word salad,” then started talking about what you and “Dookie” were up to earlier, which had nothing to do with the point I made to you. My reply was directed solely at your claim about the Founders and economics.

My question still stands: who exactly were the Founders supposed to negotiate trade with when the country had no recognition, no standing, no currency, and no credit? Until you can answer that, anything else you reply with is irrelevant.

quote:

Word salad.

Everything looks like salad when you don’t recognize basic ingredients.
Posted by whereishobson
Member since Dec 2012
401 posts
Posted on 10/13/25 at 1:40 pm to
Check this out hammer…you injected a bunch of crap that was not pertinent to the original conversation.
I never mentioned that the founders were great traders or not. I didn’t dispel the notion that they were or were not aware of making trade agreements. I simply proposed that someone that practices business and has a business degree simply knew more about economics than a trained practicing lawyer with a law degree.
You are not l to following the discussion. You cannot hijack a thread that your liberal comrade got himself in into to make it whatever you want to make it about. This thread is about business men running business. And lawyers doing the lawyering. The USA needs a business men now and not a commie lawyer.

Answer your own question. I do not need to solidify my claim. Any educated person would agree that my statement is unequivocally true.

Dookie linked sotero w the founding fathers bc they were lawyers and sotero was also an Ivy League (communist, Marxist, socialist, anti-Semite) “trained” lawyer in profession. I am simply ascertaining that trump is better with micro and macro economics than jug ears.
This post was edited on 10/13/25 at 2:03 pm
Posted by SippyCup
Gulf Coast
Member since Sep 2008
6832 posts
Posted on 10/13/25 at 1:46 pm to
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Well I didn't until Trump's second term—pretty obvious nothing is going right this time around


There are a few released hostages that would disagree with your dumb arse.
Posted by TN Tygah
Member since Nov 2023
7837 posts
Posted on 10/13/25 at 1:55 pm to
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tv reality star


Such a stupid libtard talking point. He was a business owner, investor, real estate mogul, and became a successful reality TV show host because of his brand.

Ronald Reagan, on the other hand, was a movie star and not much else. And was also a better president than Obama.

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Because he was black?


I would love the unique privilege of using my skin color to justify every mistake I’ve made in my life.
Posted by Neutral Underground
Member since Mar 2024
2788 posts
Posted on 10/13/25 at 2:50 pm to
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Grab 'em by the taco.


Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
37626 posts
Posted on 10/13/25 at 5:40 pm to
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Check this out hammer…you injected a bunch of crap that was not pertinent to the original conversation.
I never mentioned that the founders were great traders or not. I didn’t dispel the notion that they were or were not aware of making trade agreements. I simply proposed that someone that practices business and has a business degree simply knew more about economics than a trained practicing lawyer with a law degree.
You are not l to following the discussion. You cannot hijack a thread that your liberal comrade got himself in into to make it whatever you want to make it about. This thread is about business men running business. And lawyers doing the lawyering. The USA needs a business men now and not a commie lawyer.

Answer your own question. I do not need to solidify my claim. Any educated person would agree that my statement is unequivocally true.

Dookie linked sotero w the founding fathers bc they were lawyers and sotero was also an Ivy League (communist, Marxist, socialist, anti-Semite) “trained” lawyer in profession. I am simply ascertaining that trump is better with micro and macro economics than jug ears.


You’re trying to rewrite the thread after the fact. The Founders weren’t my example. Duke mentioned them first, and you jumped in with:
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Ok my gosh, wow. You can’t be serious. I wasn’t taught that in the first F$@(king grade. Most of the founding fathers were lawyers. This made them good at writing legal documents. Such as the bill of rights and Declaration of Independence.
I can’t seem to remember them arranging any trade agreements with any country other than asking France for help and $. Golly, that makes them great economists. Enough said. I will hang up and listen now while u teach the class.


You didn’t think it was off topic then. You only decided it was irrelevant after you got called on it.

You argued that being a lawyer makes someone less competent with economics than a businessman. That's fine and I would have skipped right past your point had you not chosen to attempt make it by contrasting the lawyers that engineered the system that went on to become the most prolific money-making machine in history to any jackass with an MBA.

That’s what I replied to.

Now you’re insisting you “never mentioned” whether they were good at trade, which is funny since your post literally used that as the measure of their competence. You can’t base a claim on profession-based ability, then pretend you weren’t making the comparison the when someone challenges it.

The rest of your reply is just a slow retreat. Calling it a thread about “businessmen running business” didn’t erase what you said. You chose your argument. I stayed right there.

And “any educated person would agree” isn’t proof. People don’t reach for that line when they have evidence. They use it when they’re hoping no one asks for any.
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