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Trump discussing deficit and fraud

Posted on 1/21/26 at 11:00 am
Posted by Jugbow
Member since Nov 2025
3592 posts
Posted on 1/21/26 at 11:00 am
The question was I know you don’t sleep much at night and I know you’re concerned about the national debt. Trump acknowledges 37 trillion and how growth will get us out. Then discusses cuts and fraud, specifically Minnesota.

I know there’s posters who say he doesn’t care about the debt, he’s not fiscally conservative, and he doesn’t know what’s going on in Minnesota.

For those people who habitually say Trump doesn’t know what is going on or doesn’t care or spends out of his arse, you are completely wrong.
Posted by lsuguy84
Madisonville
Member since Feb 2009
27309 posts
Posted on 1/21/26 at 11:05 am to
Thanks man. Hopefully we can all start to heal as a nation.
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
96794 posts
Posted on 1/21/26 at 11:07 am to
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For those people who habitually say Trump doesn’t know what is going on or doesn’t care or spends out of his arse, you are completely wrong.



To get a budget passed and to keep all the lemmings happy, he knows there will be some serious horse trading. Most Congressmen are not on board with cuts just so we're clear. They may say that, but they'll add their own pork in at the end.
Posted by Ten Bears
Florida
Member since Oct 2018
5025 posts
Posted on 1/21/26 at 11:17 am to
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For those people who habitually say Trump doesn’t know what is going on or doesn’t care or spends out of his arse, you are completely wrong.


Sorry, but this is absurd. There is ZERO data that Trump is advocating for reducing our deficit or our debt.

The ONLY deficit reducing policy he has advocated for is lower interest rates. He hasn't even suggested that we return to pre-COVID spending levels. And why not? It's because he knows that economic growth depends on government spending.

During his first term, the deficit climbed every single year, reaching a trillion dollars in his last 2 years, and that does NOT include any COVID spending.

He recently advocated for a $1.5 trillion military budget. The deficit for this year is projected to be anywhere from $1.7-2.2 TRILLION

Yes, there is fraud in our government, and it needs to be addressed, but we are WAY beyond growing ourselves out of this mess. Way beyond.
Posted by Techdave
Laffy
Member since Apr 2014
781 posts
Posted on 1/21/26 at 11:20 am to
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Sorry, but this is absurd. There is ZERO data that Trump is advocating for reducing our deficit or our debt.

The ONLY deficit reducing policy he has advocated for is lower interest rates. He hasn't even suggested that we return to pre-COVID spending levels. And why not? It's because he knows that economic growth depends on government spending.

During his first term, the deficit climbed every single year, reaching a trillion dollars in his last 2 years, and that does NOT include any COVID spending.

He recently advocated for a $1.5 trillion military budget. The deficit for this year is projected to be anywhere from $1.7-2.2 TRILLION

Yes, there is fraud in our government, and it needs to be addressed, but we are WAY beyond growing ourselves out of this mess. Way beyond.



Agreed. We are still spending like a 20 year old with his first credit card.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
22676 posts
Posted on 1/21/26 at 11:21 am to
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For those people who habitually say Trump doesn’t know what is going on or doesn’t care or spends out of his arse, you are completely wrong.

You know federal spending is public information, right?

Posted by Bunkie7672
Member since Mar 2020
1306 posts
Posted on 1/21/26 at 11:21 am to
What part of Trumps actions during his first term and now make you think he’s fiscally conservative?
This post was edited on 1/21/26 at 11:22 am
Posted by Jugbow
Member since Nov 2025
3592 posts
Posted on 1/21/26 at 11:21 am to
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Sorry, but this is absurd


Sorry but you’re a pussy. See we both can be dramatic.
Posted by Pragmatist2025
Member since Jun 2025
928 posts
Posted on 1/21/26 at 11:36 am to
Audit every department AGAIN and when they can’t account for any line item, cut that from their budget after cutting an initial 5%. Forget the insane ideal of a $1.5T defense budget. Distribute any fed funds to the states as block grants after cutting the amount for each by 5%. Freeze distribution to any state until they can pass an audit and/or decrease funding by amounts that cannot be accounted for.

Abolish the department of education and any other department that has operations that a state should perform, block grant after cutting 5% and freeze funds until an audit can be passed. Abolish Homeland Security and give duties to existing departments. Combine existing departments where duties overlap after cutting budget by 5%.

Freeze foreign aid for a period of one year until they can establish a reliable accounting process subject to yearly audit, with funds frozen until an audit is passed.

Pipe dreams…. but we have to account for every cent in our places of employment, and we damn well have to pay every cent that they say we owe them.
Posted by Mushroom1968
Shreveport
Member since Jun 2023
6192 posts
Posted on 1/21/26 at 11:37 am to
They are doing or have already done everything you listed.
Posted by Snipe
Member since Nov 2015
16647 posts
Posted on 1/21/26 at 11:43 am to
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Hopefully we can all start to heal as a nation.




Healing that doesn't start with cutting the head off of the socialist serpent infesting this country and burning the entire body to ashes is not the kind of healing I want to see or this country needs.

We cannot coexist with people who hate this country and want to turn it into a 3rd world country. The fight needs to happen once and for all.
Posted by Pragmatist2025
Member since Jun 2025
928 posts
Posted on 1/21/26 at 11:47 am to
I can see a few that they have not/are not doing. (Forgot to mention get rid of TSA-private function)

In fact, when have they cut anything?
This post was edited on 1/21/26 at 11:49 am
Posted by j1897
Member since Nov 2011
4609 posts
Posted on 1/21/26 at 11:49 am to
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For those people who habitually say Trump doesn’t know what is going on or doesn’t care or spends out of his arse, you are completely wrong.


But he does spend out of his arse. Facts don't care about your stupid opinion.
Posted by Mushroom1968
Shreveport
Member since Jun 2023
6192 posts
Posted on 1/21/26 at 12:06 pm to
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In fact, when have they cut anything?


DOE

Reductions

More breakup of bearacracies

[ Foreign aid freeze

DOGE cuts

I butchered the word bureaucracies
Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
35889 posts
Posted on 1/21/26 at 2:13 pm to
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We cannot coexist with people who hate this country and want to turn it into a 3rd world country. The fight needs to happen once and for all.


And the left feels the exact same way. Both the political left and right have become so tribal and cultish that I firmly believe that there can be no reconciliation.

The US is already on the unreversible path of destroying itself from within. As a 41 year old I'll die before the collapse I think, but I worry for my kids.
Posted by Rainier Fog
Member since Jul 2025
1202 posts
Posted on 1/21/26 at 3:16 pm to
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I know there’s posters who say he doesn’t care about the debt, he’s not fiscally conservative, and he doesn’t know what’s going on in Minnesota.


Those are the same people that think the President controls the budget and were probably against DOGE cuts
Posted by Rainier Fog
Member since Jul 2025
1202 posts
Posted on 1/21/26 at 3:17 pm to
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Sorry, but this is absurd. There is ZERO data that Trump is advocating for reducing our deficit or our debt.


He's literally the first president that created DOGE
Posted by Jugbow
Member since Nov 2025
3592 posts
Posted on 1/21/26 at 3:19 pm to
He threw a good tantrum didn’t he saying how absurd it is. Haha
Posted by RelicBatches86
Florida
Member since Nov 2024
1501 posts
Posted on 1/21/26 at 3:24 pm to
DOGE is a renamed agency that took over the duties of a team that already did that.

Musk isn't the first guy to think of lowering govt waste and fraud.

Growing your self out of debt is short sighted because that's what every President has done and the debt still grew.
This post was edited on 1/21/26 at 3:26 pm
Posted by EphesianArmor
Member since Mar 2025
4839 posts
Posted on 1/21/26 at 3:26 pm to
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For those people who habitually say Trump doesn’t know what is going on or doesn’t care or spends out of his arse, you are completely wrong.


Thanks for the recap. "Those people" are keeping score -- unlike his panting lapdogs.

Let me put it this way: Trump. Doesn't. Give. ONE RIP.

He delivers words NOT deeds. He stalls and stonewalls Justice. His promises ring hollow. He delivers lip-service and teases mirages. Except to his political donors *cough* THEY get all they want and demand.

On delivering on anything that benefits, protects, enriches, or improves the standards of living for America's citizenry? Scraps. Tomorrow's promises will also be forgotten. As in 2017-2020.

STATE POWER. PERSONAL POWER. PERSONAL LEGACY. A "Golden Age" for himself and his fellow believers of his Egyptian-Roman-Babylonian mystery religion. This are what actually matters to this President.
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