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re: Trump directs cash rich Fannie/Freddie to buy $200B in mortgage bonds to drive down rates

Posted on 1/8/26 at 4:38 pm to
Posted by First Sergeant1
Enterprise, Alabama
Member since Dec 2018
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Posted on 1/8/26 at 4:38 pm to
He has and continues to do more for America than any other president in my lifetime. Absolutely a great president!
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 1/8/26 at 4:41 pm to
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He has and continues to do more for America than any other president in my lifetime.



FYI, this will make affordability worse in the long run. Short term it will help some new buyers get into a home, but it's just more kicking the can down the road. Same thing we have done since 2008
Posted by Kjnstkmn
Vermilion Parish
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Posted on 1/8/26 at 4:41 pm to
Supply of homes is going up every day along with the deportation numbers
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
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Posted on 1/8/26 at 4:42 pm to
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Supply of homes is going up every day along with the deportation numbers


Those are mostly rentals, which is why cities like Austin now have rental rates below 2019 levels.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
115494 posts
Posted on 1/8/26 at 4:50 pm to
Now THAT is management thinking
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 1/8/26 at 4:55 pm to
That won't do shite.....and what's worse, as an RE guy he knows it.
Posted by Veritas
Member since Feb 2005
10864 posts
Posted on 1/8/26 at 4:56 pm to
Monthly payments are more so the problem rather than housing prices.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
39874 posts
Posted on 1/8/26 at 4:59 pm to
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Monthly payments are more so the problem rather than housing prices.
You don't think the former is a direct function of the latter?
Posted by fwtex
Member since Nov 2019
3407 posts
Posted on 1/8/26 at 4:59 pm to
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fast forward to 25 and lowering interest rates will continue to raise home prices .


Yes. What needs to be reviewed is the appraisal policies because I believe this was an equal blame for the fast increase in housing prices.

Not sure if it is the same today, but the most recent last three sales comps to justify a price was the basis of value. In a normal slow market that may be correct.

In a quick boom market that is abnormal, using the 3 recent comps will quickly inflate a market out of control. My opinion is their should be a 1 and 3 year benchmark when values spike 15% month over month for a period of time. Not to say that buyers cannot pay the market price they determine, but that the loan value should be capped. If you take out institutional buyers, individual buyers will not be outbid which is what caused the price spike.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
39874 posts
Posted on 1/8/26 at 4:59 pm to
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Using cash on had to buy bonds is not QE no matter how you spin it

The FED is not involved
No new money is created
Reallocates existing cash
This is for housing only. Not systemic
You made is sound like bonds weren't being bought in both scenarios.
Posted by Veritas
Member since Feb 2005
10864 posts
Posted on 1/8/26 at 5:01 pm to
5% on 500k is better than 7% on 450k
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
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Posted on 1/8/26 at 5:04 pm to
I said this is not QE, and it isn't



Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
37623 posts
Posted on 1/8/26 at 5:06 pm to
That's not the only reason prices spiked and institutional buyers were getting the bulk at a slight discount and then charging and forcing up rents due to demand.

You're not going to buy 100 houses at a premium, you're going to make a deal on a volume discount that takes the pressure off guys like Horton and Pulte to name few.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
39874 posts
Posted on 1/8/26 at 5:06 pm to
I was responding to this:

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the difference in bonds vs using cash on hand.


That doesn't seem to track with the point you are actually trying to make, which is why I suggested:

The difference in printing money to buy bonds vs using cash on hand to buy bonds.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
39874 posts
Posted on 1/8/26 at 5:08 pm to
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I said this is not QE, and it isn't
Yes, I agree. That's why I think your verbiage was incorrect. I am literally quoting you!
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
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182582 posts
Posted on 1/8/26 at 5:08 pm to
Gotcha

My bad
This post was edited on 1/8/26 at 5:09 pm
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
39874 posts
Posted on 1/8/26 at 5:10 pm to
Another question is: does POTUS have the authority to just order Fannie to do something? It seems like he can order OTHER govt agencies to buy Fannie bonds, but doesn't seem clear to me he can make Fannie itself do stuff.
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
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182582 posts
Posted on 1/8/26 at 5:14 pm to
He's not supposed to be able to but he also appoints the head of the FHFA and Pulte will do whatever Trump wants.
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
68532 posts
Posted on 1/8/26 at 5:15 pm to
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Do we really need home prices higher in the current environment?


Considering the alternative that puts nearly every middle-class homeowner with a mortgage upside down on their house, yeah, I'd say this is the better option.

Home equity is the biggest asset most Americans will ever have. Trump has acknowledged this and why he is steering away from lowering home prices and towards lowering interest rates. It accomplishes lowering prices without destroying equity.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
39874 posts
Posted on 1/8/26 at 5:16 pm to
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It accomplishes lowering prices without destroying equity.
But it doesn't lower prices. It raises them.
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