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re: Trump declass'd everything why does the DOJ and media keep saying the docs are classified?

Posted on 6/9/23 at 3:40 pm to
Posted by highanklesprain20
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Posted on 6/9/23 at 3:40 pm to
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sounds like they’re running with Trumps very own words about the docs still being classified.


Lol I mean no doubt, but they do love to get hung up on phrasing.

The recording is going get Trump in some very tricky "what is the meaning of the word is" gymnastics. I don't think he's up for it.
Posted by jbdawgs03
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Posted on 6/9/23 at 3:41 pm to
Is that not what you’re doing? Spouting off msnbc talking points lol
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 6/9/23 at 3:42 pm to
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Is that not what you’re doing?


Link?

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Spouting off msnbc talking points lol


You watch msnbc?

Posted by BBONDS25
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Posted on 6/9/23 at 3:42 pm to
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So it still doesn’t raise a question to you that THIS is the time he’s chosen to remain silent?


Not a bit.
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 6/9/23 at 3:43 pm to
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Lol I mean no doubt, but they do love to get hung up on phrasing. The recording is going get Trump in some very tricky "what is the meaning of the word is" gymnastics. I don't think he's up for it.


If trump is on tape stating that a document is unclassified…..there really isn’t any sort of word gymnastics needed for that. It’s pretty straight forward.
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Posted on 6/9/23 at 3:43 pm to
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Not a bit.


Well then that makes one of us.
Posted by masoncj
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Posted on 6/9/23 at 3:43 pm to
Again easy to reject that.

1. Documents in his possession - mean unclassified
2. Doesn’t matter what he says to a staffer at that point
3. The mere fact that they are at mar a lago is sufficient for declassification
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 6/9/23 at 3:45 pm to
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Documents in his possession - mean unclassified


This is false.

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Doesn’t matter what he says to a staffer at that point


This is false because the above is false.

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The mere fact that they are at mar a lago is sufficient for declassification


This is also false because of the top part being false.
Posted by highanklesprain20
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Posted on 6/9/23 at 3:45 pm to
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It’s pretty straight forward


But he telepathically declassified it, then met someone and telepathically classified it again, discussed it being classified, then telepathically declassified it. See, he's all good.
Posted by buckeye_vol
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Posted on 6/9/23 at 3:46 pm to
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The indictment even says he had classified documents. But he declassified everything. Furthermore the federal government archivists moved those documents down to MAL.
It doesn’t actually matter much if he declassified them or not, since he’s primarily in trouble for taking and refusing to return documents,
particularly sensitive documents that cannot be accessed unless in a secure containment facility, even by sitting presidents.

That said, there is literally a quote in the indictment from a Trump recording saying that he could have declassified documents but he didn’t.
Posted by masoncj
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Posted on 6/9/23 at 3:47 pm to
Ok will see what scotus has to say to that of ever even gets that far
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 6/9/23 at 3:47 pm to
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That said, there is literally a quote in the indictment from a Trump recording saying that he could have declassified documents but he didn’t.


They keep fricking ignoring this.

Except for one guy….his retort is just “nuh uh”
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Posted on 6/9/23 at 3:49 pm to
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Ok will see what scotus has to say to that of ever even gets that far


And what if the evidence is still sufficient? Is trump going to get “only god can judge me” tattooed on his arse?
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Posted on 6/9/23 at 3:49 pm to
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buckeye_vol


Look who comes out of the woodwork.
Posted by masoncj
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Posted on 6/9/23 at 3:49 pm to
Him being in possession makes them declassified.

PRA is very clear about that and Scotus as well
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 6/9/23 at 3:50 pm to
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Him being in possession makes them declassified.


Once again….this is false.
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Posted on 6/9/23 at 3:53 pm to
I wonder if the orange jump suit is gonna clash with the skin?
Posted by masoncj
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Posted on 6/9/23 at 3:56 pm to
“Once again….this is false.”

Ok so what can and what can he not do from a precedent standpoint? and then apply to the last 10 presidents who were not indicted by their successors.

That’s why these charges are such horse sh!t ….
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Posted on 6/9/23 at 3:56 pm to
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You're getting your money's worth out of that VPN.
Posted by buckeye_vol
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Posted on 6/9/23 at 3:56 pm to
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Look who comes out of the woodwork.
Yo. I come out from time to time, but I’ve toned down my posting in general the last few years.
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