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Posted on 3/30/17 at 8:32 am to AlaTiger
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I've been thinking the same. They refuse to work with their own leadership, the president, anyone. Their opposition made sense when Obama was in office to hold the GOP accountable. Now, they are just obstructionists.
They are a 3rd party, in essence. RINOs.
This!
Posted on 3/30/17 at 8:33 am to AlaTiger
Maybe he knows that the Koch Bros. are buying off those guys?
I didn't want the healthcare bill to pass, but those FC dudes need to support tax reform & infrastructure. We have neglected infrastructure far too long. Obama promised that his stimulus package would address the problem, but the bastard lied. That $700 billion went to political cronies, and Obama later lied thru his teeth & claimed there weren't any "shovel-ready" jobs.
I'm with Trump on BOTH tax reform & infrastructure.
I didn't want the healthcare bill to pass, but those FC dudes need to support tax reform & infrastructure. We have neglected infrastructure far too long. Obama promised that his stimulus package would address the problem, but the bastard lied. That $700 billion went to political cronies, and Obama later lied thru his teeth & claimed there weren't any "shovel-ready" jobs.
I'm with Trump on BOTH tax reform & infrastructure.
Posted on 3/30/17 at 8:33 am to AlaTiger
Well, this is going to hurt.
I have one foot off of the Trump train now.
I have one foot off of the Trump train now.
Posted on 3/30/17 at 8:34 am to AlaTiger
Threads like these really clarify that there are "conservatives" and "Republicans" and the two groups have very little overlap.
Posted on 3/30/17 at 8:34 am to AlaTiger
It ain't going to be the democrats are the russians that brings trump down...it is going to be the ideologically purity demanded by zealots....just because y'all won the election doesn't mean that you have healed the huge rift that is omni present in the GOP....it is still there. And as long as you are cowtowing to zealots you are going to have be ideologically purer and purer.
There are substantially more people represented in Washington by democrats than republicans....that is a simple statement of fact....the last 2 GOP presidents failed to win more votes than their opponents in their initial election (Bush did win the popular vote in re-election)....just because it appears as if the democrats are done and the GOP is in control of governemt at every level the fact is that the numbers simply do not support it for long...combine this with the fact that a majority of GOP support stems from ideological zealots who will insist on purer and purer candidates and policy the GOP is in serious trouble...in a deomcratic nation where numbers matter the DNC is in great shape...simply biding their time....mankind marcjes toward progress not regress....
There are substantially more people represented in Washington by democrats than republicans....that is a simple statement of fact....the last 2 GOP presidents failed to win more votes than their opponents in their initial election (Bush did win the popular vote in re-election)....just because it appears as if the democrats are done and the GOP is in control of governemt at every level the fact is that the numbers simply do not support it for long...combine this with the fact that a majority of GOP support stems from ideological zealots who will insist on purer and purer candidates and policy the GOP is in serious trouble...in a deomcratic nation where numbers matter the DNC is in great shape...simply biding their time....mankind marcjes toward progress not regress....
Posted on 3/30/17 at 8:37 am to AlaTiger
it's twitter bait.
7D Quadrimensional Timecube Mousetrap
The Madman has done it again.
7D Quadrimensional Timecube Mousetrap
The Madman has done it again.
Posted on 3/30/17 at 8:38 am to msutiger
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Dumbass is going to get popped in the 2020 nominations
lol
Posted on 3/30/17 at 8:40 am to AlaTiger
My thoughts? There are at least 3 dimensions to every tweet that he makes. There is the obvious reading. There is the nuanced reading. Then there is the cosmic guru reading. Welcome to 3D chess my friend.
Posted on 3/30/17 at 8:40 am to AlaTiger
I don't know to what extent the Healthcare Bill would have been *refined*, had that been passed by the House. Some say that was it...others say that was only Phase I, and the fears of the Freedom Caucus would have been addressed.
One thing is for sure...Ronal Reagan realized that if you get 80% good, you don't reject that gain for the 20% bad. The FC made their stand and their point; but I guarantee that the dynamic has changed and that if they hamstring Trump and the Dems shut down the whole 'reformation'...they are done.
We can all forget traditional Constitutional restraints on Government re *wealth (re) distribution. Both in the Laws/Regs that affect Private Industry and Social Programs alike. High tech and free-trade competition assures that we have to change or go down. If the FC is not willing to offer workable solutions, then merely standing in the way of half-workable fixes won't cut it. We'll see what they offer...soon enough.
The delusional/idealist Global Authoritarian Socialist Left...tits on a boar hog. Virtually useless or worse. That is the only given in this whole mess. FC needs to realize that and act accordingly.
One thing is for sure...Ronal Reagan realized that if you get 80% good, you don't reject that gain for the 20% bad. The FC made their stand and their point; but I guarantee that the dynamic has changed and that if they hamstring Trump and the Dems shut down the whole 'reformation'...they are done.
We can all forget traditional Constitutional restraints on Government re *wealth (re) distribution. Both in the Laws/Regs that affect Private Industry and Social Programs alike. High tech and free-trade competition assures that we have to change or go down. If the FC is not willing to offer workable solutions, then merely standing in the way of half-workable fixes won't cut it. We'll see what they offer...soon enough.
The delusional/idealist Global Authoritarian Socialist Left...tits on a boar hog. Virtually useless or worse. That is the only given in this whole mess. FC needs to realize that and act accordingly.
Posted on 3/30/17 at 8:45 am to AlaTiger
didn't the conservatives support him in the election more than the moderate Republicans? wasn't it the moderate Republicans who opposed him? Jeb, McCain, Graham, Romney, Kasich, et al?
so he is going to oppose all Democrats and all conservatives now?
wtf?
so he is going to oppose all Democrats and all conservatives now?
wtf?
Posted on 3/30/17 at 8:52 am to Eli Goldfinger
quote:Get back on that plantation, baw
The Freedom Caucus is acting like a defacto 3rd party at the peril of the republicans. They need to fall in line or get dealt with.
Posted on 3/30/17 at 8:56 am to NIH
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This post was edited on 4/11/23 at 3:24 am
Posted on 3/30/17 at 8:57 am to Hooligan's Ghost
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so he is going to oppose all Democrats and all conservatives now?
There are more of them. Trump sees this as the only way to get something done here. If it fails, he can save face with the establishment and still claim to have tried. If it goes through, he looks like a hero to most people. I don't like what he is doing at all, but I understand his strategy. I hope the FC doesn't fall for it though. Like it or not, we need them to fight this or we will end up with Obamacare light.
Posted on 3/30/17 at 8:58 am to Hooligan's Ghost
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didn't the conservatives support him in the election more than the moderate Republicans? wasn't it the moderate Republicans who opposed him? Jeb, McCain, Graham, Romney, Kasich, et al?
so he is going to oppose all Democrats and all conservatives now?
wtf?
Trump is a fricking fool and all he did was secure the dumbest portion of the republican base. The other 16 candidates split too much of the vote while the mouth breathers ran around screaming "MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN."
Nobody should be surprised that the guy who thought bigly was a word, is still acting like a retard.
Posted on 3/30/17 at 8:58 am to msutiger
Running and losing to Trump in a primary in 2020 would be a permanent deathblow to that candidate's WH hopes. It's a retarded risk when you can run in 2024 against a Dem to make your boogeyman or you run off a successful eight years of Trump or hell even a bad eight years. Make it seem like conservatism was not in the WH during Trump's tenure and that you can bring it. Losing to Trump in 2020 after a loss in 2016 would be a nut kicking you don't get up from.
This post was edited on 3/30/17 at 9:00 am
Posted on 3/30/17 at 9:01 am to NIH
We are two months into his presidency and he just declared war on conservatives. I hope the freedom caucus fights him on literally everything.
This is a huge deal to anyone who is actually conservative.
It's incredibly disturbing and should make the blood boil of anyone who isn't a RINO
This is a huge deal to anyone who is actually conservative.
It's incredibly disturbing and should make the blood boil of anyone who isn't a RINO
Posted on 3/30/17 at 9:01 am to AuburnTigers
Why are you talking about the establishment? The HFC is the opposite of the establishment and Trump is going to war with them. I guess that makes Trump the establishment.
Posted on 3/30/17 at 9:03 am to msutiger
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This is a huge deal to anyone who is actually conservative.
This is true. I had hoped it wouldn't come to this, but it appears that Trump has thrown in with the establishment fricks already.
Posted on 3/30/17 at 9:03 am to AlaTiger
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I've been thinking the same. They refuse to work with their own leadership, the president, anyone. Their opposition made sense when Obama was in office to hold the GOP accountable. Now, they are just obstructionists.
quote:may have authored the single dumbest post I've seen on here and that's saying a lot. You, sir, are a dumbass.
AlaTiger
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