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Posted on 7/24/17 at 7:33 am to Bunyan
The first fight is destroying the people who inform the public what they are up to. Destroy them and you can do anything, especially things the public would never put up with.
We need to get rid of this guy.
We need to get rid of this guy.
Posted on 7/24/17 at 7:36 am to TBoy
lol "we." What do you plan on doing?
Posted on 7/24/17 at 7:37 am to Bunyan
quote:I googled "Trump establishment cronyism" and got 307,000 results. I'll bet if you tried real hard, you could do the same.
establishment cronyism
Link?
Posted on 7/24/17 at 7:39 am to TX Tiger
Sure. I bet if you Google Hillary crimes you would get a ton of results, too. Anybody can look up anything and get something.
Posted on 7/24/17 at 7:41 am to Bunyan
quote:You asked for a link, I gave you 307,000.
Sure. I bet if you Google Hillary crimes you would get a ton of results, too. Anybody can look up anything and get something.
Posted on 7/24/17 at 7:49 am to TX Tiger
That's not very clever, and again, not a good argument. Saying,"Hey, I googled something without looking at it, but HERE'S your proof," doesn't persuade me you're right. I thought you had MANY years of experience?
Posted on 7/24/17 at 7:52 am to TX Tiger
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The media is fully aware of how to kill a campaign (Ron Paul) and how to build one up (Obama, now Trump).
And why do you think the media would have built up Trump's campaign? Because they thought it'd be an easy win for Clinton? Hell, all you have to do is watch any of the election video mash ups and see them deriding him earlier on, then be completely shocked when he wins. The media may have built his campaign up but they certainly don't do it to help him.
Posted on 7/24/17 at 7:53 am to Jyrdis
That's 100% true
Posted on 7/24/17 at 7:59 am to Bunyan
quote:Nothing I say is going to persuade you, just like nothing I could say would persuade Obamabots your age that they were also being duped eight years ago.
That's not very clever, and again, not a good argument. Saying,"Hey, I googled something without looking at it, but HERE'S your proof," doesn't persuade me you're right.
If Trump's 70-year history of doing business, coupled with the people he has surrounded himself with in his administration, coupled with the way he is continuing to push the establishment agenda in the Middle East, building up the military industrial complex, and hands-off approach to the Federal Reserve, then there's certainly nothing I could possibly say that would add to that.
Posted on 7/24/17 at 8:11 am to TX Tiger
I'm an independent. I focus on policy. Obama killed America with foreign policy, jobs, border security, unemployment, wages, poverty, weakened military, rise of ISIS, forcing schools to enforce bathroom laws or face penatly, and forcing people to buy health insurance. Hillary would be a continuation of a weakened Anerica.
According to Millions of Americans, icluding many "Obamabots," they agreed with that sentiment in November.
You can try to persuade me on policy, but it's only been 6 months.
In that 6 month period, jobs are coming back, illegal immigration is down, American strength is back around the world, consumer confidence at a 10 year high, cutting harsh economic regulations, and being a strong advocate against radicalization, while putting American values in the forefront.
I'm feeling good, bro. Stop being so negative
According to Millions of Americans, icluding many "Obamabots," they agreed with that sentiment in November.
You can try to persuade me on policy, but it's only been 6 months.
In that 6 month period, jobs are coming back, illegal immigration is down, American strength is back around the world, consumer confidence at a 10 year high, cutting harsh economic regulations, and being a strong advocate against radicalization, while putting American values in the forefront.
I'm feeling good, bro. Stop being so negative
Posted on 7/24/17 at 8:12 am to Jyrdis
quote:Because the establishment isn't stupid. It knows we're pissed and want change. It needed a pied piper to herd those masses. Who was a more qualified salesman to pull off that charade than a reality TV and WWE star?
The media is fully aware of how to kill a campaign (Ron Paul) and how to build one up (Obama, now Trump).
And why do you think the media would have built up Trump's campaign?
They picked the perfect guy for the job and the establishment proved once again that if you say something enough times in the media, enough people will eventually come to believe it.
It's fake news. But when the fake news tells us he's anti-establishment, then all of a sudden it's truth news.
Someone is going to have to explain that one to me.
quote:Really? Then why do you think they do it?
The media may have built his campaign up but they certainly don't do it to help him.
Posted on 7/24/17 at 8:12 am to TX Tiger
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TX Tiger
So it's your contention that Trump has been the "establishment" choice this whole time and it's just a more clever disguise?
What is your best evidence of this? Not saying you are wrong, I just hadn't even really considered that possibility.
Posted on 7/24/17 at 8:14 am to Bunyan
Drain the Swamp -> Drain the Sewer. HOW CLEVER!!!!
This is literally some kindergarten shite.
This is literally some kindergarten shite.
Posted on 7/24/17 at 8:16 am to AUbused
A Better Deal: Better Jobs, Better Wages, Better Future (Papa John's)
Bro you walked right into that one lol
Bro you walked right into that one lol
Posted on 7/24/17 at 8:25 am to Bunyan
He's still tweeting! 
quote:
Donald J. Trump?Verified account @realDonaldTrump 35m35 minutes ago
So why aren't the Committees and investigators, and of course our beleaguered A.G., looking into Crooked Hillarys crimes & Russia relations?
quote:
Donald J. Trump?Verified account @realDonaldTrump 11m11 minutes ago
Sleazy Adam Schiff, the totally biased Congressman looking into "Russia," spends all of his time on television pushing the Dem loss excuse!
quote:
Donald J. Trump?Verified account @realDonaldTrump 6m6 minutes ago
Republicans have a last chance to do the right thing on Repeal & Replace after years of talking & campaigning on it.
Posted on 7/24/17 at 8:34 am to TX Tiger
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TX Tiger
Posted on 7/24/17 at 8:40 am to Seldom Seen
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and of course our beleaguered A.G.
Posted on 7/24/17 at 8:41 am to Bunyan
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After 1 year of investigation with Zero evidence being found, Chuck Schumer just stated that "Democrats should blame ourselves,not Russia."
Zero evidence of what? That Russia interfered in the election? Trump has said this is so. There is too much smoke for there to be no fire. I think collusion is a stretch but it is not a stretch to say that Russia interfered.
My question is why is this shocking? There is NO way, given the nature of money in our political system, that foreign nations are involved in EVERY election in this country. Arguably they have a right to interfere.....they have financial interests. Anyone who lives in a world where lobbyists are not lobbying on behalf of foreign interests and governments is living in a dream world. You can rest assured that money in the US lobbies for our governments support of policies in foreign nations. It happens every minute of every day in both directions. Claiming otherwise because your boy is on the hot seat is the purest form of naivety.....
Posted on 7/24/17 at 8:42 am to Robin Masters
quote:It's the oldest trick in the book. There's absolutely NOTHING new here. That's why I can't understand how people can fall this crap, AGAIN! Hell, research the federal reserve act of 1913 and see how the establishment finally got it passed. Same trick. It's been going on for at least 100 years. It did the same thing with building up Obama only using a different approach.
TX Tiger
So it's your contention that Trump has been the "establishment" choice this whole time and it's just a more clever disguise?
quote:Not sure what you consider "evidence" but I've discussed this ad nauseam on this board. Not sure how else to put it. Trump was hand-picked by the establishment to quell a general public that was on the verge of rioting over its displeasure with the establishment. Infiltrate, co-opt and kill has been a working model of the establishment for generations. The Tea Party is a good example in more recent times.
What is your best evidence of this?
Who better to pull this off than one of America's most successful and persuasive salesman.
Look at how the media played it up, building him to rock star status. If the media wanted a campaign eliminated, it most certainly knows how to do that. Ask Ron Paul. But it did the opposite with Trump. It gave him 24/7 access to refute the softball allegations it tossed at him. Who does that? Who makes accusations and then gives that person 24/7 worldwide access for rebuttal?
Trump has been entrenched in the establishment for 70 years. It's how he was able to build his fortune. Look at the establishment figures he's surrounded himself with since taking office. He continues to move forward with the establishment agenda in the Middle East. He's built up the establishment military industrial complex. He's doing nothing to "drain the swamp" but in fact keeps adding to it, and doesn't dare take on the Federal Reserve.
He's as establishment as a human being could be and always has been. How he's fooled anyone is mind-boggling.
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