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Trump campaign should create ad re: Hydroxy

Posted on 7/3/20 at 5:06 pm
Posted by LSU Jax
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Member since Sep 2006
8865 posts
Posted on 7/3/20 at 5:06 pm
A long collage of democrats and the vermin in the media blasting the long existing, proven safe drug all because he touted it. There is no shortage of footage. Finished with the revelation of the extensive study.

These scumbags are disgusting and truly an enemy of the people.
Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 7/3/20 at 5:07 pm to
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Hydroxy
he might get called an oreo
Posted by ML Crisis
Clown world
Member since Jul 2020
195 posts
Posted on 7/3/20 at 5:07 pm to
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These scumbags are disgusting and truly an enemy of the people.


They're criminals if HCQ really is an effective treatment of this. Fauci should be tried and convicted.
Posted by Tyrusrex
Member since Jul 2011
907 posts
Posted on 7/3/20 at 5:21 pm to
Yes, Democrats have attacked this drug solely because Trump advocated it, but at the same time Hydroxy should never have gotten the coverage in the first place if Trump hadn't advocated for it. Hydroxy for all of Trump's assurances is not a harmless safe drug a simple google search will show this, but the main side effects to watch out for is heart damage. THe biggest danger right now, is that hydroxy, is still being advocated as a treatment for covid-19 and that it's still being suggested that it's harmless. We should just Forget about hydroxy and focus on better treatment like remdevisir.
Posted by LSU Jax
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Member since Sep 2006
8865 posts
Posted on 7/3/20 at 9:31 pm to
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Hydroxy for all of Trump's assurances is not a harmless safe drug a simple google search will show this, but the main side effects to watch out for is heart damage. THe biggest danger right now, is that hydroxy, is still being advocated as a treatment for covid-19 and that it's still being suggested that it's harmless.

Link this shite please.
Posted by Tyrusrex
Member since Jul 2011
907 posts
Posted on 7/4/20 at 5:36 pm to
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Link this shite please.


Dangers of Hydroxy from the FDA , FDA Warning,

from the national poison control center

There's more if you don't belive them. Look believe it or not I'm not trying to tear down Trump, but protect people. You shouldn't believe any non medical professional even President Trump without scientific proof. Believe it or not Trump may not be the most reliable medical source.
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 7/4/20 at 5:38 pm to
Aspirin has a warning for bleeding. You could bleed out and die. Why would people advocate that for heart health?????
Posted by Tyrusrex
Member since Jul 2011
907 posts
Posted on 7/4/20 at 5:50 pm to
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Aspirin has a warning for bleeding. You could bleed out and die. Why would people advocate that for heart health?????



Aspirin has a small anticoagulant effect like a hemophiliac this helps to prevent blood clots which are far more dangerous when you have a dad bod like mine. Aspirin is beneficial to keeping blood flowing and preventing clots. Depending on what you're suffering from such as a hemoragghic stroke where a blood vessels instead of being blocked has burst, you much rather have the aspirin. But I'm just a lay person rando from the internet, you should really listen to established medical orgnizations such as the AMA or the FDA or just your doctor who is paid to keep track of things like this for you.
Posted by LChama
Member since May 2020
1651 posts
Posted on 7/4/20 at 6:05 pm to
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Aspirin has a small anticoagulant effect like a hemophiliac this helps to prevent blood clots which are far more dangerous when you have a dad bod like mine. Aspirin is beneficial to keeping blood flowing and preventing clots. Depending on what you're suffering from such as a hemoragghic stroke where a blood vessels instead of being blocked has burst, you much rather have the aspirin. But I'm just a lay person rando from the internet, you should really listen to established medical orgnizations such as the AMA or the FDA or just your doctor who is paid to keep track of things like this for you.


I dont remember the prez trying to write individuals prescriptions dumbass. I know the docs at the hospital at which I work have been prescribing it for every patient that was admitted with wuhan virus... with great results by the way. There have been a number of extemely well known docs(world renown cardiologists) on Fox and even youtube before their vids were methodically taken down that have said from the beginning that it is effective and there are risks for a minute percentage of people.. each person should be/or not be prescribed this med by someone who knows their medical history. That does not mean that the danger is huge for a huge percent. That does not mean the med is not effective. That does not mean the risks are greater than the benefit.
Posted by catfish 62
Atlanta
Member since Mar 2010
4912 posts
Posted on 7/4/20 at 6:11 pm to
We need several more clinical trials before it can be a slam dunk on the dems. The trial was only 2500 patients ?
Posted by cave canem
pullarius dominus
Member since Oct 2012
12186 posts
Posted on 7/4/20 at 6:11 pm to
Honestly he needs to never mention it again, just depoliticize the damn stuff so it will be about if it works or not instead of which side you are on.

Nothing good comes from keeping treatment options in the kabuki theater that is American politics at this time.

Finding what works best is more important than hollow political victories and both sides of the aisle need to have this hammered into their skull.
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 7/4/20 at 6:22 pm to
I know more about it than you and most people as I am not a mere lay person. I’m pointing out how retarded your logic is.

Everything is a function of dose, effect size, and risk/benefits.

Blanket statements based off fda “warnings” are meaningless.
This post was edited on 7/4/20 at 6:23 pm
Posted by Gaspergou202
Metairie, LA
Member since Jun 2016
13496 posts
Posted on 7/4/20 at 6:41 pm to
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Hydroxy for all of Trump's assurances is not a harmless safe drug

I don’t recall Trump doing this. But I do know he put his money where his mouth is and took it. Yet he’s still alive, vibrant, and covid free.

Should every doctor that prescribes this stuff lose their license and be sued for malpractice?

Someone mentioning a possible treatment option for a patient to discuss with their doctor is a good thing. I’m not advocating for the drug, but I am for the discussion.

Categorical denials and prohibitions of use because Orange Man Bad is criminal.
Posted by memphis tiger
Memphis, TN
Member since Feb 2006
20720 posts
Posted on 7/4/20 at 6:47 pm to
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Hydroxy for all of Trump's assurances is not a harmless safe drug a simple google search will show this, but the main side effects to watch out for is heart damage. THe biggest danger right now, is that hydroxy, is still being advocated as a treatment for covid-19 and that it's still being suggested that it's harmless


What is the actual rate of adverse drug reactions?

Can you list all of the drugs that have ZERO possible adverse reactions or side effects?
Posted by memphis tiger
Memphis, TN
Member since Feb 2006
20720 posts
Posted on 7/4/20 at 6:49 pm to
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We need several more clinical trials before it can be a slam dunk on the dems. The trial was only 2500 patients ?


2500 patients is a pretty size for a clinical trial
Posted by Tyrusrex
Member since Jul 2011
907 posts
Posted on 7/4/20 at 11:00 pm to
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I know more about it than you and most people as I am not a mere lay person. I’m pointing out how retarded your logic is.

Everything is a function of dose, effect size, and risk/benefits.

Blanket statements based off fda “warnings” are meaningless.



ok, I'm more than willing to cede medical expertise to you, as I said I'm nothing more than a lay person, not a medically trained expert, so I like to ask what are the proper dosages of hydroxycholoraquin? Is hydroxychrloroquin effective at these dosages to treat covdid-19? Does hydroxychrlogoquin have any potential dangers to the heart or cardiovascular system like studies have indicated? Do you prescribe Hydroxychloloraquin as a treatment for covid-19? Why do you feel you know more than the scientists and doctors who have previously studied the drug?
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111521 posts
Posted on 7/4/20 at 11:05 pm to
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Why do you feel you know more than the scientists and doctors who have previously studied the drug?


Bruh. It’s not used car dealers using the stuff to treat Covid patients. It’s doctors.
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 7/4/20 at 11:10 pm to
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Is hydroxychrloroquin effective at these dosages to treat covdid-19? Does hydroxychrlogoquin have any potential dangers to the heart or cardiovascular system like studies have indicated? Do you prescribe Hydroxychloloraquin as a treatment for covid-19? Why do you feel you know more than the scientists and doctors who have previously studied the drug?


1. We don’t know yet. Conflicting reports. I was losing hope but recent studies have brought it back to light

2. Hcq prolongs your QT interval and can increase your risk of Torsades de Pointes. The risk of this occurring is incredibly low absent other QT prolonging drugs and/or structural heart abnormalities.

3. We were toying around with it but took it off the protocol a few weeks ago. We may add it back eventually if more positive data come out

4. Because I’m paid to know more about drugs and up to date literature regarding said drugs than 99.9% of people on the planet.
This post was edited on 7/4/20 at 11:11 pm
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111521 posts
Posted on 7/4/20 at 11:11 pm to
Any dexamethasone usage?
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 7/4/20 at 11:13 pm to
Widespread. I’m actually seeing effect with this on admitted patients.

Inflammatory labs (ferritin, CRP, ddimer, LDH) would increase substantially over the course of most patients with risk factors. Now, I’m seeing those markers either increase much slower or actually go down within 48h of Decadron initiation. I’m very hopeful
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