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re: Trump advisors are considering plans to dramatically revamp the Fed, WSJ report says

Posted on 4/26/24 at 9:48 am to
Posted by Lou Pai
Member since Dec 2014
28119 posts
Posted on 4/26/24 at 9:48 am to
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Great the resident retard is back


No need to announce yourself like this, you already made this clear when you suggested the Federal Reserve is responsible for deficits.
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
6648 posts
Posted on 4/26/24 at 9:49 am to
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Biden has a Federal Reserve Chair making monetary policy decisions that help his administration.




Who appointed Jerome Powell? Answer: the same imbecile who appointed Christopher Wray, Mark Milley and a host of other idiots.
Posted by momentoftruth87
Member since Oct 2013
71436 posts
Posted on 4/26/24 at 9:50 am to
The the decisions the fed makes has no impact on the economy?
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118782 posts
Posted on 4/26/24 at 9:52 am to
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Who appointed Jerome Powell? Answer: the same imbecile who appointed Christopher Wray, Mark Milley and a host of other idiots.


Doesn't matter.

As long as the FR is there as the congressional sugar daddy since 1913 it matters not who occupies the WH. Your purchasing power will always decrease with unsound fiat FR money.
Posted by LSUbest
Coastal Plain
Member since Aug 2007
11102 posts
Posted on 4/26/24 at 9:52 am to
Stupid.
Posted by Lou Pai
Member since Dec 2014
28119 posts
Posted on 4/26/24 at 9:53 am to
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it is a known fact that Jerome Powell politically acted against Trump to help get Biden elected.


By lowering interest rates to near-zero?
Posted by Lou Pai
Member since Dec 2014
28119 posts
Posted on 4/26/24 at 9:55 am to
quote:

The the decisions the fed makes has no impact on the economy?


Of course they do. But why are you mentioning deficits and making yourself look like a fool, then calling others retards?
Posted by Tmcgin
BATON ROUGE
Member since Jun 2010
4991 posts
Posted on 4/26/24 at 9:55 am to
Trump bots like this but a centrally planned economy does not work----
independent bank is important

Guy can't run a profitable casino/golf course

Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162225 posts
Posted on 4/26/24 at 9:56 am to
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So a govt agency should just do what it wants against the president’s plan?

Does this mean y’all will stop blaming Trump for the deficit if he shouldn’t have any responsibility tied to it?

If I were mentally retarded, these were the questions I would ask in response to the OP.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118782 posts
Posted on 4/26/24 at 9:59 am to
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By lowering interest rates to near-zero?


Besides COVID the FR rose interest rates during Trump's term:

This post was edited on 4/26/24 at 10:02 am
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101407 posts
Posted on 4/26/24 at 9:59 am to
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No surprise since Trump is a big spending Liberal.


You see this as a "big spending Liberal" idea? Why haven't any other "big spending Liberals" proposed anything like this?

I'm not vouching for this (although, I'm not sure why anyone would be up in arms about someone spit-balling ideas to fix something that seems inherently problematic to anyone who cares to look at things objectively at all), but I'm not sure what about looking at something like this would be more appealing to a "big spending Liberal" than the current status quo - which seems to be appeasing them perfectly peachily.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162225 posts
Posted on 4/26/24 at 10:00 am to
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By lowering interest rates to near-zero?

No kidding. If anything, he helped Trump and hurt Biden

If Trump could pull the strings in a lame duck second term we would be back to near zero interest rates again, so he could claim short term gains for his legacy while making long term inflation worse.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118782 posts
Posted on 4/26/24 at 10:03 am to
quote:

quote:

By lowering interest rates to near-zero?


No kidding. If anything, he helped Trump and hurt Biden



He raised interest rates the first 3 years of Trump's term. He dropped them to near zero for COVID. Kept them near zero as long as possible for Biden.
This post was edited on 4/26/24 at 10:05 am
Posted by Lou Pai
Member since Dec 2014
28119 posts
Posted on 4/26/24 at 10:04 am to
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Besides COVID the FR rose interest rates during Trump's term:


Very gradually to much more normal levels, as the economy was doing well in his term before COVID and we were leaving the era of Obama's stagnation.
Posted by TigerIron
Member since Feb 2021
3044 posts
Posted on 4/26/24 at 10:10 am to
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It's not a government agency and monetary policy does not fall under the purview of the president



If it's not a government agency, then it should not have (and it's unconstitutional for it to have) governmental powers.

If it is a government agency, then it must be under the control of the President.

It is, of course, a government agency, given that it was created by Congress, empowered by Congress, serves as the bank for the U.S., distributes the U.S.'s currency, sets interest rates, and imposes regulations on private banks. Anything that acts as a regulator and has regulatory powers is a government entity.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118782 posts
Posted on 4/26/24 at 10:10 am to
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Very gradually to much more normal levels, as the economy was doing well in his term before COVID and we were leaving the era of Obama's stagnation.


It was doing well because of Trump's energy policy. A lot of critics dismiss easy energy policy but easy energy policy has profound positive economic impacts. When energy costs are low it's cheaper to HVAC your building, it's cheaper to deliver goods, it's cheaper to manufacture goods, it's cheaper to take that road trip, it's cheaper to buy airline tickets, etc., etc.

Trump wanted to juice the economy further. It was only growing 2-4%. And while the economy was growing the FR was winding down assets on their balance sheet they accumulated from the 2008 financial crisis.

Then, boom...COVID and that fricked up everything.
Posted by MStant1
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2010
4529 posts
Posted on 4/26/24 at 10:14 am to
Fed lowered rates all throughout 2019 well before Covid.....
Posted by MStant1
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2010
4529 posts
Posted on 4/26/24 at 10:15 am to
Double post
This post was edited on 4/26/24 at 10:15 am
Posted by frogtown
Member since Aug 2017
5013 posts
Posted on 4/26/24 at 10:18 am to
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Trump bots like this but a centrally planned economy does not work-


I will agree with you for once. Trumpkins need to learn this.
Posted by Lou Pai
Member since Dec 2014
28119 posts
Posted on 4/26/24 at 10:19 am to
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It was doing well because of Trump's energy policy. A lot of critics dismiss easy energy policy but easy energy policy has profound positive economic impacts. When energy costs are low it's cheaper to HVAC your building, it's cheaper to deliver goods, it's cheaper to manufacture goods, it's cheaper to take that road trip, it's cheaper to buy airline tickets, etc., etc.


I don't get this. We don't have a nationalized energy industry. Energy became very cheap during his administration due to lucky timing and technological advances in the industry that were already well underway (in spite of Obama).

Trump's economy was driven by tax rate cuts and broader de-regulation. The rest of the world was also doing well in this period ("synchronized growth").
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