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re: Trump administration plans to cut 80,000 employees from Veterans Affairs, acc to memo

Posted on 3/5/25 at 6:09 pm to
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
141575 posts
Posted on 3/5/25 at 6:09 pm to
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aero1126



do you ever tire of taking L's?
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
14369 posts
Posted on 3/5/25 at 6:56 pm to
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I remember rotating there right after the pandemic started. When they had like 15 people just sitting in the front "checking temperatures," it was obvious they were way over staffed
Over 400K employees, and it took the VA over 9 months and an inquiry from my congressman, to get 1 of them to look at my kid's birth certificate and my marriage license, in order to have them listed as my dependents. Bloated bureaucracy at its best! Every damn time I called, I would swear the person I talked to was working from home!
Posted by dalefla
Central FL
Member since Jul 2024
3381 posts
Posted on 3/5/25 at 7:16 pm to
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Bloated bureaucracy at its best! Every damn time I called, I would swear the person I talked to was working from home!


And you would be correct. I know several IT and product improvement people that work for the VA and have never stepped foot in a VA office of any type.
Posted by Sofaking2
Member since Apr 2023
19678 posts
Posted on 3/5/25 at 7:22 pm to
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Trumps hatred of vets is well known

My father in law was a Vietnam Vet and loves Trump. He said the VA saw a rise in quality and access after Trump was elected. What branch did you serve in again? I was Army.
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
11092 posts
Posted on 3/6/25 at 3:59 am to
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I know several IT


Yep. My best friend works in IT for VA and hasn’t been in the office in 5 years. Now he’s worried he could be on chopping block. I think he has 20 years put in so not sure how that would impact any pension if he is let go. He’s told me for years the VA is nothing but a jobs program for veterans and has people getting paid to do nothing.
Posted by POTUS2024
Member since Nov 2022
20943 posts
Posted on 3/6/25 at 4:19 am to
It's been interesting watching this board take a pivot and start shitting on veterans.
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
11092 posts
Posted on 3/6/25 at 4:32 am to
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It's been interesting watching this board take a pivot and start shitting on veterans.


I think what you will find is very few people are shitting on veterans. They are shitting on all the bloat, waste, incompetence, and inefficiency in our Federal Government which the VA is the poster child for. The Federal Government shouldn’t be a ‘jobs’ program for anyone veteran or not.
Posted by Stinger_1066
On a golf course
Member since Jul 2021
2899 posts
Posted on 3/6/25 at 5:02 am to
Miss Lindsey not happy:

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Sen. Lindsey Graham of South Carolina, the Republican chair of the Senate Budget Committee, was displeased the VA had not given lawmakers an advance notification of the changes, saying it was “political malpractice not to consult Congress.”

“Maybe you’ve got a good reason to do it,” he said. “But we don’t need to be reading memos in the paper about a 20% cut at the VA.”
Posted by Stinger_1066
On a golf course
Member since Jul 2021
2899 posts
Posted on 3/6/25 at 5:08 am to
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Why dont we just give vets good free private insurance with low deductibles and copays?


If they are required to pay deductibles and copays, how is it "free"?
Posted by ole man
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2007
16927 posts
Posted on 3/6/25 at 5:29 am to
How bout you go frick yourself, every Veteran that comes back from a war is scarred forever, some come home blown up, no legs, arm, permanently disabled for fighting in a war that our politicians got us in so they could get
rich.

Why does an agency need 80.000 thousand employees? I'm waiting for a vet to tell every member in congress to go frick themselves



Posted by weptiger
Georgia
Member since Feb 2007
11632 posts
Posted on 3/6/25 at 5:35 am to
I fail to understand how the VA can’t get it done with 482K employees. This just takes the staffing back to 2019 levels of roughly 400K employees after what amounts to a ~17% staff reduction.
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
14369 posts
Posted on 3/6/25 at 6:03 am to
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My father in law was a Vietnam Vet and loves Trump. He said the VA saw a rise in quality and access after Trump was elected. What branch did you serve in again? I was Army.
I've yet to meet a veteran that was not pro-Trump. I'm certain they exist, but not in large numbers.
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
14369 posts
Posted on 3/6/25 at 6:05 am to
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He’s told me for years the VA is nothing but a jobs program for veterans and has people getting paid to do nothing.
It's a jobs program all right, but not so sure for vets. I heard a news report yesterday that only 25% of VA employees were veterans.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
86333 posts
Posted on 3/6/25 at 6:43 am to
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It's been interesting watching this board take a pivot and start shitting on veterans.



Do you think the military wastes money?


If you do, congrats, you hate veterans too.
Posted by Warrior Court
Atlanta
Member since Apr 2022
3711 posts
Posted on 3/6/25 at 6:56 am to
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Man up Elon go after the military industrial complex for real.


he's too busy firing park rangers.
Posted by BluegrassCardinal
Kentucky
Member since Nov 2022
1751 posts
Posted on 3/6/25 at 6:57 am to
I work for the VA as an RN. When I worked bedside nursing, we were constantly understaffed on night shift. Management team would come around and distribute pizza for Nurse's week and there would be a whole corps of them running around. I work case management now and we can't keep psychologists.

I also am a veteran and have VA benefits. The care I've received at the medical center and the clinics have been better than any civilian provider. However, location matters and I know it can vary quite a bit.

There's fat to be trimmed to be sure, but would be nice to see the chainsaw to go after the grift that is the MIC and all of the bullshite proxy wars we've fought since Dubya.
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
53805 posts
Posted on 3/6/25 at 7:00 am to
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that provides health care for retired military members,


They aren't just cutting folks in the healthcare area though. This is every one down to the "security" that sits in the lobby or the janitors.

VA hired about 65,000 last year alone. I'd think folks are safe if they didn't get hired in the past year or 2
Posted by Wildcat1996
Lexington, KY
Member since Jul 2020
9496 posts
Posted on 3/6/25 at 7:02 am to
I have not read the full thread, but am surprised that the staff at the VA grew by over 80K since 2019. If they are targeting 400K and cutting 80K, that reflects a greater than 20% increase in staff in only 5 years.

There may be some need there. Our Vietnam vets are 70+ years of age and the Iraq I vets are hitting their mid-50s. These vets are in the years where healthcare utilization increases substantially.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
94001 posts
Posted on 3/6/25 at 7:05 am to
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he's too busy firing park rangers.


Oh noz not park rangers!
Posted by Proximo
Member since Aug 2011
22121 posts
Posted on 3/6/25 at 7:06 am to
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Trumps hatred of vets is well known

None of your morons criticizing this know ANYTHING about the VA or how much money doesn’t go to vets. Most of it is wasted in bureaucracy
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