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re: Trump Admin wants to allow adoption organizations to deny gay couples
Posted on 11/5/19 at 2:36 pm to TwoTimeTiger
Posted on 11/5/19 at 2:36 pm to TwoTimeTiger
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Posted on 11/5/19 at 2:36 pm to TwoTimeTiger
quote:Because the APA is about as liberal an organization as exists.
And the “political” pressure was brought by people inside the APA
Posted on 11/5/19 at 2:38 pm to ctiger69
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Like having to wear an adult diaper have sex because of fecal incontinence.
Plus rectal cancer, plus infection, etc..
Let me guess... you will say this normal.
Straight people with these ailments shouldnt be allowed to have kids either?
Posted on 11/5/19 at 2:39 pm to ctiger69
I mean, female sexual interest/arousal disorder is a fricking disorder in the DSM!
Posted on 11/5/19 at 2:40 pm to ShortyRob
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And you know as well as I do not a single study was cited to support the change
it was a political change. I know you know this.
This change was done in 1973. This is from the NY Times:
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The American Psychiatric Association, altering a position it has held for nearly a century, decided today that homosexuality is not a mental disorder.
The board of trustees of the 20,00D-member group approved a resolution that said in part, “by itself, homosexuality does not meet the criteria for being a psychiatric disorder.”
Persons who are troubled by their homosexuality, the trustees said, will be classified as having a “sexual orientation disturbance” should they come to a psychiatrist for help.
“We will no longer insist on a label of sickness for individuals who insist that they are well and demonstrate no generalized impairment in social effectiveness,” the trustees said.
Sounds like it was kind of common sense that it was not a disorder as there were no generalized impairments for those individuals.
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Posted on 11/5/19 at 2:42 pm to Mickey Goldmill
quote:What's the point of your post.
Mickey Goldmill
quote:That's not a study or new evidence. It's just 20K people changing their minds
The board of trustees of the 20,00D-member group approved a resolution that said in part, “by itself, homosexuality does not meet the criteria for being a psychiatric disorder.”
quote:Comically, female sexual arousal disorder IS a disorder...........because.............well, they don't want to frick..............but not wanting to frick a female at all? Nope.
Sounds like it was kind of common sense that it was not a disorder as there were no generalized impairments for those individuals.
Frankly, the APA embarrassed itself with the mental gymnastics it took to do what they did.
And, they did it gain recently by succumbing to the trans nut jobs.
Posted on 11/5/19 at 2:43 pm to Mickey Goldmill
Psychology in particular, and the “mental health professionals" in general are the final stronghold of quack medicine. They are just a half-step above the Astrologers. Like Astrology, this is pseudoscience that purports to analyze and explain aspects of a person's personality and to predict their reactions to various events in their lives.
Psychology and Psychiatry were once considered to be scholarly fields and have been strongly endorsed within academic circles wherein the need for their "services" appears to be the greatest. Current evaluation of this field of "science" appears to confirm that it's practitioners are the individuals in the most serious need of mental evaluation and treatment.
Psychology and Psychiatry were once considered to be scholarly fields and have been strongly endorsed within academic circles wherein the need for their "services" appears to be the greatest. Current evaluation of this field of "science" appears to confirm that it's practitioners are the individuals in the most serious need of mental evaluation and treatment.
Posted on 11/5/19 at 2:45 pm to ShortyRob
What "study" did they need to do to decide "well they are saying they don't have any issues with their lives, I don't see any issues with social interaction abilities...what exactly are we looking for here"
Posted on 11/5/19 at 2:45 pm to ctiger69
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Like having to wear an adult diaper have sex because of fecal incontinence.
Not the issue you think it is. Also straight people can have this issue as well if you know how to have fun.
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Plus rectal cancer, plus infection, etc..
What do you think causes rectal cancer? You think it’s just gay sex on its own?
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Let me guess... you will say this normal.
I will Say they can be mitigated by safe sex and you also are a fricking moron.
Posted on 11/5/19 at 2:47 pm to ShortyRob
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Comically, female sexual arousal disorder IS a disorder...........because.............well, they don't want to frick..............but not wanting to frick a female at all? Nope.
That's not what that means. It's only a disorder if they wanted to "want" to have sex. If you don't want to have sex and you're fine with that with no issues, how is that a disorder? It's not.
Posted on 11/5/19 at 2:47 pm to Mickey Goldmill
quote:Well, they had it in. Generally, changing their minds should require actual new information.
What "study" did they need to do to decide "well they are saying they don't have any issues with their lives, I don't see any issues with social interaction abilities...what exactly are we looking for here"
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I don't see any issues with social interaction abilities...what exactly are we looking for here"
If you think you're a cat but go along fine in life and never have any issues, you still have a disorder. You just are happy about it and get thru life anyway.
Posted on 11/5/19 at 2:48 pm to Mickey Goldmill
quote:I didn't put it in the DSM
That's not what that means. It's only a disorder if they wanted to "want" to have sex. If you don't want to have sex and you're fine with that with no issues, how is that a disorder? It's not.
Posted on 11/5/19 at 2:49 pm to ShortyRob
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I didn't put it in the DSM
I'm saying you don't understand what that disorder actually is.
Posted on 11/5/19 at 2:50 pm to TDsngumbo
When I was 15 I came out as straight to my gay parents. My mom took it like a man.
Posted on 11/5/19 at 2:53 pm to ShortyRob
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If you think you're a cat but go along fine in life and never have any issues, you still have a disorder. You just are happy about it and get thru life anyway.
There would be social limitations to going through life thinking you're a cat....
By itself, there aren't any for being gay. I'm gay and I have zero issues with social interactions, no limitations with my work, my family, nothing.
That's the point of the APA changing their opinion. BY ITSELF, being gay is not a disorder. Gay with can have disorders, sure, but simply being attracted to the same sex is not by itself one of them.
Not sure why this is even an argument in 2019 when the change in classification was done in the 70s lol
Posted on 11/5/19 at 3:04 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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By itself, there aren't any for being gay. I'm gay and I have zero issues with social interactions, no limitations with my work, my family, nothing.
That's the point of the APA changing their opinion. BY ITSELF, being gay is not a disorder. Gay with can have disorders, sure, but simply being attracted to the same sex is not by itself one of them.
Not sure why this is even an argument in 2019 when the change in classification was done in the 70s lol
BuUuUuT iT sAyS iN tHe BiBlE gAyS aRe BaD!
Posted on 11/5/19 at 3:07 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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By itself, there aren't any for being gay. I'm gay and I have zero issues with social interactions, no limitations with my work, my family, nothing
Humans exist to procreate. If they didn't humans wouldn't exist. By definition being gay has a social limitation.
It's no big deal f*** who you want. But you have a disorder
Posted on 11/5/19 at 3:08 pm to ShortyRob
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Humans exist to procreate. If they didn't humans wouldn't exist. By definition being gay has a social limitation.
Tons of straight people dont have kids, this argument is really bad
Posted on 11/5/19 at 3:11 pm to ShortyRob
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Humans exist to procreate. If they didn't humans wouldn't exist. By definition being gay has a social limitation.
It's no big deal f*** who you want. But you have a disorder
Ok if you say so. I have the disorder of not making a baby with my boyfriend. I can go make a baby if I wanted to though with a woman, but I don't want to. But if that's a disorder, then so be it
Posted on 11/5/19 at 3:13 pm to ShortyRob
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Humans exist to procreate. If they didn't humans wouldn't exist. By definition being gay has a social limitation.
Absolutely ridiculous is statement. By that logic, does everyone who chooses not to have kids also have a mental disorder?
Using the word “disorder” doesn’t make you less than a judgmental prick at this point.
This post was edited on 11/5/19 at 3:17 pm
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