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re: True or false. GOP impeachment of Clinton
Posted on 1/29/20 at 7:12 pm to ShoeBang
Posted on 1/29/20 at 7:12 pm to ShoeBang
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Perjury on the other hand, which you stated before, is an actual crime, not the made up mickey mouse bull shite we see before us today
But again he committed perjury about being with Monica...
I'm not excusing the "crime"...but how many would lie in the same circumstances if you're POTUS? I would not...but I'm also not a cheater
Most adulterators lie about it...so understand it...
Not enough to remove if that's the "crime"
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Posted on 1/29/20 at 7:14 pm to troyt37
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Also known as perjury, and obstruction of justice. Crimes that would land you or I in jail.
I agree with this
Posted on 1/29/20 at 7:16 pm to viceman
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He should've been impeached for selling nuclear secrets to the Chinese
fricking A
Posted on 1/29/20 at 7:17 pm to FightinTigersDammit
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He should've been impeached for selling nuclear secrets to the Chinese
What's the background on how that came to be?
Posted on 1/29/20 at 7:21 pm to ApexTiger
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Also known as perjury, and obstruction of justice. Crimes that would land you or I in jail.
I agree with this
You saw how seriously they treated those same types of allegations with Flynn and Stone.
Posted on 1/29/20 at 7:21 pm to ApexTiger
quote:We should totally use this defense in murder cases. How many would lie about murdering someone? We should just let them go.
I'm not excusing the "crime"...but how many would lie in the same circumstances if you're POTUS?
This post was edited on 1/29/20 at 7:23 pm
Posted on 1/29/20 at 7:27 pm to Taxing Authority
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We should totally use this defense in murder cases. How many would lie about murdering someone? We should just let them go.
But adultery isn't against the law
Posted on 1/29/20 at 7:29 pm to ApexTiger
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I'm not excusing the "crime"...but how many would lie in the same circumstances if you're POTUS? I would not...but I'm also not a cheater
No need for quotation marks. When you are being deposed, raise your right hand and swear to tell the truth, and then lie through your teeth, it’s a crime. A felonious crime, in fact. Also known as a high crime. Obstruction of justice is as well, if I’m not mistaken. Suborning perjury too.
Posted on 1/29/20 at 7:30 pm to ApexTiger
Perjury is
Posted on 1/29/20 at 7:32 pm to ApexTiger
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What's the background on how that came to be?
Illegal campaign contributions from Chinese.
Posted on 1/29/20 at 7:33 pm to ApexTiger
quote:it's what started everything. He'd testified to not having an relations, and then, it began to leak that he had. Which, by definition, meant he'd lied under oath.
I thought that case was separate...
quote:Correct. It would be absurd to impeach a guy for adultery. Alas, he lied under oath in his sexual harassment case. (and then again to Ken Starr when questioned about that lie)……...so, basically lied under oath twice.
My point is if he was sleeping with someone other than Hillary...that's a sin not a high crime.
quote:This would require the CLinton thing to have been the first investigation of its sort.
My question is, is the GOP partly to blame for our current situation involving endless investigations?
But, it wasn't. So, I don't see how you can place at that that doorstep.
Posted on 1/29/20 at 7:35 pm to viceman
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I never thought he should be impeached for that because it had nothing to do with his job performance.
It could have had a lot to do with his job performance. He left himself vulnerable to blackmail
Posted on 1/29/20 at 7:36 pm to ApexTiger
quote:If you are accused of sexual harassment with a subordinate co-worker, your sexual behavior with other subordinates is fair game.
I'm not excusing the "crime"...but how many would lie in the same circumstances if you're POTUS? I would not...but I'm also not a cheater
You don't get to lie about it. I mean hell, the left should be more appalled than anyone on that subject!
He didn't lie because it would out him as a cheater. Everyone paying attention already knew he was a poon hound.
He lied because admitting it would have been bad for his case with Paula Jones.
Posted on 1/29/20 at 7:38 pm to ApexTiger
quote:Are you being willfully obtuse?
But adultery isn't against the law
Sexual harassment IS against the law and it was in a sexual harassment case where his behavior with ANOTHER subordinate was questioned. And, he lied about it.
Frankly, at this point, anyone who thinks Paula Jones was lying hasn't been paying attention and yet, Hillary and the media portrayed her in the most vile way possible...……...then Bill LIED in her case.
That's kinda serious actually.
Posted on 1/29/20 at 7:40 pm to ShortyRob
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He lied because admitting it would have been bad for his case with Paula Jones.
Exactly. And thus the obstruction of justice charge, and he was guilty as sin, of both. The senate not convicting and removing him is the reason we have the socialist democrat party we have today.
Posted on 1/29/20 at 7:42 pm to ApexTiger
quote:Neither is eating at McDonalds. Did you have a point? Or just making a list of things thst Clinton was NOT impeached for?
But adultery isn't against the law
Posted on 1/29/20 at 7:42 pm to ApexTiger
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Our Congress is stuck in perpetual tic for tac.
You mean “tit for tat”?
Posted on 1/29/20 at 7:49 pm to stuntman
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Poll tests.
I would aim for the government dependents. Food stamps, section 8, (un)earned income tax credits, or even student loans in default should temporarily suspend voting privileges. With a clear and specific process for restoring them once you're off the dole. If you can't provide food and shelter for your family your opinion is not needed.
This post was edited on 1/29/20 at 7:50 pm
Posted on 1/29/20 at 7:50 pm to shinerfan
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I would aim for the government dependents. Food stamps, section 8, (un)earned income tax credits, or even student loans in default should temporarily suspend voting privileges. With a clear and specific process for restoring them once you're off the dole.
I second the motion.
Posted on 1/29/20 at 7:51 pm to ShortyRob
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This would require the CLinton thing to have been the first investigation of its sort.
But, it wasn't. So, I don't see how you can place at that that doorstep.
Fair enough...
Why did Congress get to this point of total disfunction?
I'm just trying to understand what we're witnessing
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