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re: Trigger Warning: UMC nurses in NO vote to unionize

Posted on 12/11/23 at 10:05 am to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
281895 posts
Posted on 12/11/23 at 10:05 am to
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Company leadership.


why do they set wages at a specific point?
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
68428 posts
Posted on 12/11/23 at 10:07 am to
I agree with this. Nursing salaries in Louisiana have been a joke for as long as I can remember and the hours even worse. I know many nurses who moved to Texas because the same job paid at least 50% more or took travel nurse work for 3 times the money.

There isn’t a nursing shortage everywhere. There is a nursing shortage in areas where nurses get terrible pay relative to local cost of living or areas that are especially remote. The healthcare industry would rather pay travel nurses exorbitant sums of money for 3-6 months at a time while working them for 90 hrs/week than pay a reasonable wage for 40 hrs to attract more workers.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
281895 posts
Posted on 12/11/23 at 10:10 am to
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There isn’t a nursing shortage everywhere. There is a nursing shortage in areas where nurses get terrible pay relative to local cost of living or areas that are especially remote


The system works like it should. People migrate to where the jobs are higher paying if thats their preference.

AI and automation will cut a lot of jobs in the near future.
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 12/11/23 at 10:11 am to
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Youre just saying shite without knowing meanings.


Welcome to the mind of a Liberal: Spout a bunch of meaningless platitudes, accomplish NOTHING , then strut around telling everyone how you're changing the world....

Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 12/11/23 at 10:11 am to
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Sure. Keep drinking the koolaid.


Jesus Christ, you really are a Communist.....

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
281895 posts
Posted on 12/11/23 at 10:12 am to
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Jesus Christ, you really are a Communist.....


Scholastically ignorant.

One macro class and shes up to speed.
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 12/11/23 at 10:14 am to
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One macro class and shes up to speed.


She is literally the perfect example of a Commie Redditor.

Here's a pic of what Redditor's look like in real life:



Wonder which one 4Commies is?
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
54195 posts
Posted on 12/11/23 at 10:15 am to
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why do they set wages at a specific point?
they set them as low as they can to stay in business.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
32980 posts
Posted on 12/11/23 at 10:17 am to
Ok , now let's transfer ourselves to the real world
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 12/11/23 at 10:17 am to
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they set them as low as they can to stay in business.


And the parameters they use to determine whether they will be able to stay in business are often determined by......go ahead, you're almost there.....rhymes with "Parket Porces"...

Posted by hawkeye007
Member since Feb 2010
5983 posts
Posted on 12/11/23 at 10:18 am to
why is it Nurse's unionizing for higher wages cause premiums to go up? Hospitals are massive grifts for their services. The cost of a hospital stay in non union hospitals aren't any cheaper than unionized hospitals. Look just own the fact that conservatives hate unions because unions support DEMS. if they supported the GOP i doubt the hate would be the same. Good for these nurses. Somehow in this country we demonize unions but somehow trust corporations to pay and treat people fairly.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
281895 posts
Posted on 12/11/23 at 10:19 am to
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The cost of a hospital stay in non union hospitals aren't any cheaper than unionized hospitals.


Health care is higher in unionized states

quote:

New York
$14,007
Alaska
$13,642
Massachusetts
$13,319
Delaware
$12,899
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
281895 posts
Posted on 12/11/23 at 10:21 am to
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they set them as low as they can to stay in business.


No, they set them to the point they can hire and retain enough staff to do the work.

If your hospital doesnt meet your needs, go find one that does.

A worker is only as valuable as it costs to replace them.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
54195 posts
Posted on 12/11/23 at 10:36 am to
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Health care is higher in unionized states quote:New York $14,007 Alaska $13,642 Massachusetts $13,319 Delaware $12,899


Is healthcare the outlier? Nothing else is more expensive in those states?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
281895 posts
Posted on 12/11/23 at 10:43 am to
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Is healthcare the outlier? Nothing else is more expensive in those states?


Yes, due to high labor costs

Youre so close...

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
281895 posts
Posted on 12/11/23 at 10:45 am to
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And the parameters they use to determine whether they will be able to stay in business are often determined by......go ahead, you're almost there.....rhymes with "Parket Porces"...


She's soooo close. If she could drop those biases, today could be a great day for her.
Posted by Bourre
Da Parish
Member since Nov 2012
21875 posts
Posted on 12/11/23 at 10:46 am to
Oh look, the fat commie neckbeard is here to defend the leftist position.

frick off, lardass
This post was edited on 12/11/23 at 10:46 am
Posted by hawkeye007
Member since Feb 2010
5983 posts
Posted on 12/11/23 at 10:48 am to
thanks for making my point, the 3rd grade name calling is real cute also. makes your point on this discussion even more comical.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
54195 posts
Posted on 12/11/23 at 10:51 am to
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Yes, due to high labor costs


Who knew nurses wielded so much power?!
Posted by Bourre
Da Parish
Member since Nov 2012
21875 posts
Posted on 12/11/23 at 10:52 am to
No what’s comical is you trying to play the “both sides” game when you only care about 1 side.
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