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re: Trigger Warning: UMC nurses in NO vote to unionize

Posted on 12/10/23 at 12:14 pm to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 12/10/23 at 12:14 pm to
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So youre claiming ceos are all anointed on merit?


They dont get the job straight out of college, Zippy.

Most people could become nurses, very few can become a CEO.
Posted by El Segundo Guy
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Posted on 12/10/23 at 12:15 pm to
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Uh no shite. That's why unions exist.


bullshite. Many unions act as gatekeepers and to shelter their weak employees. Public sector unions being the absolute worst. As a Soldier, if I got a DUI, my career was done. A cop gets a slap on the wrist and is unfireable because of their union, which is a travesty.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 12/10/23 at 12:15 pm to
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Many unions act as gatekeepers and to shelter their weak employees.


And barriers to entry to protect existing workers.
Posted by TigerOnTheMountain
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Posted on 12/10/23 at 12:17 pm to
Neither you or the teacher are anywhere close to being qualified enough to speak to the intricacies of being a CEO.

Give me a break
Posted by GoAwayImBaitn
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Member since Jul 2018
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Posted on 12/10/23 at 12:18 pm to
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Look at the responsibilities and experience requirements of the CEO.

Nurses are fairly easily replaced, CEOs not so much.


Look at the responsibilities of an ER nurse or even an ER doctor.

They keep you alive when you roll in there. They are paid a small fraction of what that CEO is paid. If the CEO is paid 6,000,000 a year, that can staff roughly 86 nurses at $70,000 a year. You think that CEO is worth that kind of money? The ER doc makes about $200,000 a year.

Maybe you should ask for the CEO to treat you when you roll into the ER with a gunshot wound to the chest. Afterall, he's got skill and irreplaceable so he certainly has to know what to do to save you...

CEOs are a lot like communist dictators. They want everyone to work more for less while paying themselves salaries that are far out of line with the average worker under them. They are also largely responsible for why a person can work for a company for an entire lifetime while having no retirement or pension after 30 years of service and dedication. Yes, dictators are often hard to find so lets pay them unrealistic numbers.

This post was edited on 12/10/23 at 12:22 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 12/10/23 at 12:21 pm to
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Look at the responsibilities of an ER nurse or even an ER doctor.


The CEO has responsibility of every nurse, and ever doctor working in that hospital.

My older brother is a CFO, you dont get handed C-suite jobs.
Posted by El Segundo Guy
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Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 12/10/23 at 12:21 pm to
My wife can save your life but she can't make business decisions.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
50183 posts
Posted on 12/10/23 at 12:21 pm to
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Neither you or the teacher are anywhere close to being qualified enough to speak to the intricacies of being a CEO.


But you’re qualified to speak on the complexities and expertise required to be a nurse or a teacher?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260854 posts
Posted on 12/10/23 at 12:24 pm to
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But you’re qualified to speak on the complexities and expertise required to be a nurse or a teacher?



I can. I was a teacher, my ex was a nurse.

All it takes is an undergrad degree, in fact an education degree is the easiest one can get.
Posted by GoAwayImBaitn
On an island in the marsh
Member since Jul 2018
2146 posts
Posted on 12/10/23 at 12:25 pm to
[quote]My older brother is a CFO, you dont get handed C-suite jobs.
[quote]
And you get handed a job as a nurse?

That argument is assinine


This post was edited on 12/10/23 at 12:26 pm
Posted by TigerOnTheMountain
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Posted on 12/10/23 at 12:25 pm to
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But you’re qualified to speak on the complexities and expertise required to be a nurse or a teacher?


Both have a minimum requirement of a two year, community college degree. The complexities don’t exist as you describe.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260854 posts
Posted on 12/10/23 at 12:25 pm to
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Both have a minimum requirement of a two year, community college degree.


Its insane she thinks a nurse is as entitled as a CEO to that kind of pay.

Posted by TigerOnTheMountain
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Posted on 12/10/23 at 12:29 pm to
People like her always greatly over value themselves and their role. American education ranks among the worst of developed nations and yet here she is, telling us how hard it is to teach
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260854 posts
Posted on 12/10/23 at 12:31 pm to
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People like her always greatly over value themselves and their role.


Typical female shite. They buy into the "hero" label and think by virtue of finishing two years of school they need to make CEO type pay.

If she understood basic econ or civics, she wouldnt be such a dingbat.
Posted by Riverside
Member since Jul 2022
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Posted on 12/10/23 at 12:33 pm to
Imagine thinking giving money to a corrupt union to negotiate on your behalf is a good thing.
Posted by TigerOnTheMountain
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Posted on 12/10/23 at 12:34 pm to
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If she understood basic econ or civics


She might be a CEO instead of an inner city public school baby sitter
This post was edited on 12/10/23 at 12:34 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260854 posts
Posted on 12/10/23 at 12:34 pm to
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And you get handed a job as a nurse?

That argument is assinine


You graduate with a degree, you get a job.

That doesnt happen with CEO's Gomer.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
50183 posts
Posted on 12/10/23 at 12:34 pm to
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Both have a minimum requirement of a two year, community college degree. The complexities don’t exist as you describe.
Requirements vary by state. If only the nurses that will treat you as you continue to age could be made aware of how easy you believe their jobs are before they had to lay a finger on you.
Posted by lsuguy84
CO
Member since Feb 2009
19680 posts
Posted on 12/10/23 at 12:35 pm to
So you want them to neglect his care because words on the internet make you angry?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260854 posts
Posted on 12/10/23 at 12:36 pm to
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If only the nurses that will treat you as you continue to age could be made aware of how easy you believe their jobs are before they had to lay a finger on you.


That makes you not only look stupid, but evil.

I hope no on ever hires you, because based on this you'll only do required work if you agree with the client on political stuff.

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