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Trafalgar shows Trump down in PA

Posted on 9/25/20 at 1:32 pm
Posted by Clemsontigers02
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Posted on 9/25/20 at 1:32 pm
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 9/25/20 at 1:33 pm to
I think PA is going to be hard. He's going to need at least one of Michigan, Wisc or Minny to go with Arizona.
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 9/25/20 at 1:36 pm to
This isn't so bad IMO.

It seems like Trump can get to 260 without any real problem - then Biden would need a straight flush (I don't know poker terms) to hold Trump off in MN, WI, PA, MI, and a combo of NV/ME/NH/NM. Biden needs to win ALL of those! Not easy.

Trump should be able to hone in on the most likely 2 of that batch and just hammer them down the stretch like he did Michigan in 2016
This post was edited on 9/25/20 at 1:38 pm
Posted by Midget Death Squad
Meme Magic
Member since Oct 2008
24544 posts
Posted on 9/25/20 at 1:36 pm to
quote:

Biden 48.1
Trump 45.9 (-2.2%)



w/in margin of error; 6% still do decide; only 2 points with a month left to go



This is bad news for Biden I think. Undecideds at this point usually swing to the incumbent. Especially given the fear of Trump supporters to voice it officially, this should be even more so the case.
Posted by bamalee
Member since Jan 2009
1001 posts
Posted on 9/25/20 at 1:39 pm to
Look ever poll will be tight in Pa. He barely won, but he will over perform with white women and union family's. Most people are terrified to say who they are voting for.. shine trump voters are real...
Posted by fjlee90
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2016
7836 posts
Posted on 9/25/20 at 1:39 pm to
They’re typically accurate. PA is a tough one. I still like the poll. 2% either way is winnable.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39452 posts
Posted on 9/25/20 at 1:42 pm to
I cant see a Trump voter in PA who couldnt stomach HRC flip to Biden after 4 years of rousing success.

The key will be new voters.
Posted by Clemsontigers02
Member since Sep 2020
743 posts
Posted on 9/25/20 at 1:47 pm to
I thought undecideds typically went to the challenger at a 2:1 rate. Obviously Trump could be different...
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39452 posts
Posted on 9/25/20 at 1:55 pm to
I'm talking new voters. New registrants, folks who didn't vote in '16, and voters who have passed away or moved since '16.

That said, PA saw unique benefits from the "america first" trade agenda, particularly in steel. There's reason to think Trump may be stronger in PA than in 16.
Posted by rhinolsu
Tyler, TX
Member since Sep 2007
765 posts
Posted on 9/25/20 at 1:56 pm to
Depends how many ballots are found in ditches. Will be a tight race in PA.
Posted by Magician2
Member since Oct 2015
14553 posts
Posted on 9/25/20 at 1:57 pm to
I think PA is way more possible than Mi, Wi, MN
Posted by Midget Death Squad
Meme Magic
Member since Oct 2008
24544 posts
Posted on 9/25/20 at 1:58 pm to
quote:

I cant see a Trump voter in PA who couldnt stomach HRC flip to Biden after 4 years of rousing success.




They hated Hillary. She is evil incarnate.


Sleepy on the other hand is seen as calm and even keel. Doesn't matter if we know better or not; it's just how it is. So yes, there will be people switching over from Trump to Sleepy. The question is how many. I don't think it will be a large number, and there are going to be those who voted Hillary last time but now like Trump's success.
Posted by Marciano1
Marksville, LA
Member since Jun 2009
18421 posts
Posted on 9/25/20 at 1:59 pm to
Polls are irrelevant pre-first debate. They'll still be mostly fake afterward but polling people to begin with before the two candidates debate anything is a waste of time.
Posted by GeauxtigersMs36
The coast
Member since Jan 2018
7823 posts
Posted on 9/25/20 at 2:00 pm to
Union members and families are big. Union members aren’t lock and file with the Dems anymore. The halls may be but the members are not.
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
18916 posts
Posted on 9/25/20 at 2:00 pm to
To be fair he was behind 90% of the time in PA last election.

None of us thought he would win except for that one poster who lives there.

Gonna be close. Just like last time.
Posted by LSUSkip
Central, LA
Member since Jul 2012
17549 posts
Posted on 9/25/20 at 2:03 pm to
quote:

It seems like Trump can get to 260 without any real problem


270 to win has auto-sims and I saw one the other day where he got to 270 without PA, MI, WI, or MN. Got NV and NH. Obviously not ideal, don't want it that close, but still possible.
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
18916 posts
Posted on 9/25/20 at 2:05 pm to
quote:

Since the 2016 primary election, Republicans have added about 165,000 net voters, while Democrats added only about 30,000. Democrats still maintain an 800,000-voter edge over Republicans. But that’s down from 936,000 in 2016, when Trump still won the state by less than 1%.


LINK
This post was edited on 9/25/20 at 2:06 pm
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
18916 posts
Posted on 9/25/20 at 2:08 pm to
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
39578 posts
Posted on 9/25/20 at 2:08 pm to
He was down 5 in Trafalgar last time they polled PA.
Posted by Tesla
the Laurentian Abyss
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 9/25/20 at 2:12 pm to
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