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re: Trafalgar has Biden +2 in PA

Posted on 10/13/20 at 9:35 am to
Posted by aubie101
Russia
Member since Nov 2010
3584 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 9:35 am to
What was Trafalgar at in 2016 during the same timeframe?
Posted by crazyatthecamp
Member since Nov 2006
2264 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 9:36 am to
I think either candidate really needs Pennsylvania.

It's a 40 point swing.

He needs Michigan or Penn or WI+MN.

Posted by StopRobot
Mobile, AL
Member since May 2013
15727 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 9:36 am to
quote:

It all will come down to turnout. Trump voters are highly energized, Biden voters aren't.



Anti Trump voters are energized
Posted by La Place Mike
West Florida Republic
Member since Jan 2004
30889 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 9:36 am to
TRump will win PA by 2.
Posted by Ssubba
Member since Oct 2014
7373 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 9:39 am to
His best path is still the same as 2016. Get FL, OH, and NC. Hold the Republican strongholds AZ and GA. Go pick off Wisconsin for the win.

WI and NC should be ground zero for the campaign.
Posted by PorkSammich
North FL
Member since Sep 2013
16824 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 9:39 am to
Pennsylvania is looking real good.

Trump’s doing better than polls showed in 2016.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
78037 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 9:40 am to
quote:


Anti Trump voters are energized
Historically, those voting against someone rather than for someone do not show up at the polls as reliably.
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
26355 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 9:42 am to
quote:

Historically, those voting against someone rather than for someone do not show up at the polls as reliably.



Historically, I agree with you. This is not a typical election though.
Posted by StopRobot
Mobile, AL
Member since May 2013
15727 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 9:42 am to
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He needs Michigan or Penn or WI+MN.



As of right now, MI WI and MN are gone. He wont win those. Still an outside shot at PA but not looking good. If Trump loses PA and the other three Midwest states its over. He cannot win. If he does win PA then he needs to still win OH, NC, AZ, FL to win. All states he is behind in. Biden has much more options to win right now.
Posted by Janky
Team Primo
Member since Jun 2011
35957 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 9:43 am to
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Historically, I agree with you. This is not a typical election though.


I know, this time it is different...right?
Posted by Clemsontigers02
Member since Sep 2020
1066 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 9:43 am to
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Trump’s doing better than polls showed in 2016.


The only difference is that PPD and Trafalgar are conservative leaning pollsters (methodology is there to get the shy Trump vote and doesn't seem like they are biased media pushing a narrative that sleepy Joe is up 50 points). Still within striking distance, but I'd feel that either Trafalgar or PPD have to have him leading in a key rust belt state for me to feel positive going into election day.
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
30543 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 9:43 am to
quote:

This is not a typical election though.


Lol, neither was 2016, amirite?

Your tears will be the best...
Posted by Janky
Team Primo
Member since Jun 2011
35957 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 9:44 am to
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As of right now, MI WI and MN are gone. He wont win those.


You are a fricking idiot.
Posted by Clemsontigers02
Member since Sep 2020
1066 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 9:44 am to
quote:

As of right now, MI WI and MN are gone. He wont win those. Still an outside shot at PA but not looking good. If Trump loses PA and the other three Midwest states its over. He cannot win. If he does win PA then he needs to still win OH, NC, AZ, FL to win. All states he is behind in. Biden has much more options to win right now.


I think he's up in OH, NC, AZ, and FL. Nate Silver and RCP probably have him down, but the reliable polls seem to show him up in those states (but down in the core four rust belt states).
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
78037 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 9:44 am to
quote:

Historically, I agree with you. This is not a typical election though.
We hear that all the time. It becomes typical when you look back. The enthusiasm and voter registration is in favor of Trump in FL, NC, and PA. He's got OH and IA.
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
40890 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 9:45 am to
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As of right now, MI WI and MN are gone. He wont win those. 

Lol. Y'all never learn.
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
133273 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 9:46 am to
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Rain would definitely keep some Biden voters home


Hell, a mildly amusing infomercial would keep Biden voters home.

No one is really enthusiastically voting for Biden.

Posted by Clemsontigers02
Member since Sep 2020
1066 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 9:47 am to
I listened to PPD a little today and he mentioned that he thought PA would be Trump's best chance based on his old rust belt polling where some of the other states have gone back to lean D.
Posted by nugget
Abrego Garcia Fan
Member since Dec 2009
15666 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 9:50 am to
How has it felt coming to terms that you no longer vote in favor of political ideology but instead purely on how a candidate makes you feel?

Does the song, “I feel like a woman” describe you well?
This post was edited on 10/13/20 at 9:51 am
Posted by GeneralLee
Member since Aug 2004
13946 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 9:51 am to
If it's a MOE race in PA I think Trump pulls it out in PA given: 1) lack of Amish in the polling, 2) Trump's superior ground game and 3) higher rejection rate for Dem heavy mail in ballots.
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