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Posted on 3/4/17 at 8:20 pm to BBONDS25
Kimberly in for Jesse Waters, Watters World Show tonight; had on a guest that has a highly trusted source that says Obamas DOJ did wiretap Trump towers.
Posted on 3/4/17 at 8:22 pm to cajunangelle
That judge just talked to a former AG and he blasted the fisa stuff up. We need to get rid of these courts if this happened.
Posted on 3/4/17 at 8:46 pm to Woobie
Can I get some cliffs?
Will anything come of this outside of this message board?
Will anything come of this outside of this message board?
Posted on 3/4/17 at 8:53 pm to Prominentwon
Trump accused Obama of wire-tapping him during campaign.
There was a FISA/FBI investigation going on at the time that involved Trump campaign.
Obama denies "he" ordered it.
This has all been reported on MSM.
There was a FISA/FBI investigation going on at the time that involved Trump campaign.
Obama denies "he" ordered it.
This has all been reported on MSM.
Posted on 3/4/17 at 9:00 pm to FreddieMac
Did anybody see Judge Jeanine with the former AG and Judge on?
She noted Speaker Ryan said the other day; The report Obama ordered showed-- no Trump person was tied to Russia regarding matters of the US and elections.
The first request to the FISA court HAD TRUMP'S NAME ON It and WAS TURNED DOWN. The Oct. request one did not have Trump's name and was granted.
It is very unusual the court says no. But they did.
It can't even be tied to Monafort because he was not in the campaign at the time of the FISA court requests.
This court was a political arm of Obama's DOJ. It was set up for quick counter terrorism intel. Not for smearing in your heated partisan POTUS campaign ;because it is HRC's turn, and the establishment doesn't like a particular candidate.
If you study the judges of the FISA court. One of the judges term expires in a few months.
(Very few Americans know anything about this court much less the judges)
She noted Speaker Ryan said the other day; The report Obama ordered showed-- no Trump person was tied to Russia regarding matters of the US and elections.
The first request to the FISA court HAD TRUMP'S NAME ON It and WAS TURNED DOWN. The Oct. request one did not have Trump's name and was granted.
It is very unusual the court says no. But they did.
It can't even be tied to Monafort because he was not in the campaign at the time of the FISA court requests.
This court was a political arm of Obama's DOJ. It was set up for quick counter terrorism intel. Not for smearing in your heated partisan POTUS campaign ;because it is HRC's turn, and the establishment doesn't like a particular candidate.
If you study the judges of the FISA court. One of the judges term expires in a few months.
(Very few Americans know anything about this court much less the judges)
This post was edited on 3/4/17 at 9:06 pm
Posted on 3/4/17 at 9:08 pm to cajunangelle
This is all a bunch of fluff, yelling from the rafters. Republicans are too spineless to do anything about this. I'm tired of the theatrics, get off your asses, take off the gloves, and friggin do something.
Posted on 3/4/17 at 9:51 pm to The Baker
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GET IN, LADS! Trump: Just found out that Obama had my "wires tapped"
Dammit the one day I decide to go fishing and completely ignore the rest of the world, the fun stuff happens.
Posted on 3/4/17 at 9:52 pm to Wimp Lo
I agree that something needs to be done. I'm sick of the left playing dirty and getting away with it.
Posted on 3/4/17 at 9:55 pm to WeeWee
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Dammit the one day I decide to go fishing and completely ignore the rest of the world, the fun stuff happens.
I would imagine this thing is far from over. Pop-fricking-corn.
Posted on 3/4/17 at 10:28 pm to Homesick Tiger
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He knows something or he wouldn't make such a statement.
We are talking about a man who every time he is caught in a lie plays the " this is what I heard from somebody. I don't know" card.
This post was edited on 3/4/17 at 10:31 pm
Posted on 3/4/17 at 10:35 pm to Kickadawgitfeelsgood
Are you nuts? Trump has never let facts stand in the way of his petulant lord Fauntleroy diatribes!
Where have you been? Potus creates his own facts, lives in his own reality, and creates his own narative
Where have you been? Potus creates his own facts, lives in his own reality, and creates his own narative
Posted on 3/4/17 at 11:45 pm to WeeWee
I was playing BOTW LUL
Posted on 3/4/17 at 11:47 pm to OTIS2
Take. Down.the Obamas.
End their version of America.
End their version of America.
Posted on 3/5/17 at 12:29 am to Lsupimp
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The level of coordination required , at the highest levels, between the intelligence community agencies and the Administration to do this would make me consider whether the country is already lost after eight years of post- constitutionalism. And whether this cold cultural war is about to go hot. We can either have The Left or the Constitution, but not both
The left is upon us, as it was in the French, Russian, and Chinese revolutions. As in the killing fields of Cambodia. Make no mistake. They are upon us.
This post was edited on 3/5/17 at 12:29 am
Posted on 3/5/17 at 1:38 am to Mrs. Amaro
An interesting part of this that nobody seems to be mentioning is that Trump's "Russian connections" have already been investigated by Obama's administration and they found nothing. Does that mean we can consider the Trump/Russia saga settled and Liberals can at least come up with a new bs reason to undermine our President's authority.
Posted on 3/5/17 at 4:53 am to Kickadawgitfeelsgood
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We are talking about a man who every time he is caught in a lie plays the " this is what I heard from somebody. I don't know" card.
Who are you talking about? I'm thinking it's Obama, cause he'd heard every bad thing in his Administration from reports on the news, but Trump is kind of playing the same game, so.....?
Posted on 3/5/17 at 7:08 am to Kickadawgitfeelsgood
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We are talking about a man who every time he is caught in a lie plays the " this is what I heard from somebody. I don't know" card.
Heard this morning that is likely that FBI Director COMEY confirmed to Trump that he/Trump Tower had been tapped. Further likely that Obama's (dirty) AG Lynch...submitted the Request to the Court. And that Obama would have fully informed to such.
ALL dialogue aside, Left and Right, what the Public will retain is that OBAMA TAPPED TRUMP. That is it; Trump has blown this thing to High Heaven. The Republicans will now be FORCED to respond; and the likely *trumped* up evidence in that SECOND Request will have to be make public. Trump can remove it from the Classified List...and cut it loose.
Mess with the bull...get the horns.
Posted on 3/5/17 at 7:23 am to RCDfan1950
So Bill Clinton met w Lynch who requested a wiretap approved by Obama
no wonder they want the light on the Russians
no wonder they want the light on the Russians
Posted on 3/5/17 at 7:41 am to FreddieMac
It is so damned sad it has come to this...
It is known in the IC of spooks and the politico world; and highly reported outright in the news (as seen below) two FISA court requests were made via Obamas' FBI/DOJ.
How does Trump get docs from a secret court set up to rubberstamp? The court was not designed to spy on your political opponent. Manafort wasn't in the campaign at the time. BTW many democrats not just Manafort have lobbied/done business for Ukraine and Russia. ;cough cough; Tony Podesta.
Obama is sitting there all laughin because of the ongoing investigations crap. Yet, the report was presented to Congress and none of the Russian/Trump conspiracy was found. Even Speaker Ryan had to admit this.
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It is known in the IC of spooks and the politico world; and highly reported outright in the news (as seen below) two FISA court requests were made via Obamas' FBI/DOJ.
How does Trump get docs from a secret court set up to rubberstamp? The court was not designed to spy on your political opponent. Manafort wasn't in the campaign at the time. BTW many democrats not just Manafort have lobbied/done business for Ukraine and Russia. ;cough cough; Tony Podesta.
Obama is sitting there all laughin because of the ongoing investigations crap. Yet, the report was presented to Congress and none of the Russian/Trump conspiracy was found. Even Speaker Ryan had to admit this.
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(Andrew McCarthy) Dated January 11th 2017:
[…] To summarize, it appears there were no grounds for a criminal investigation of banking violations against Trump. Presumably based on the fact that the bank or banks at issue were Russian, the Justice Department and the FBI decided to continue investigating on national-security grounds. A FISA application in which Trump was “named” was rejected by the FISA court as overbroad, notwithstanding that the FISA court usually looks kindly on government surveillance requests.
A second, more narrow application, apparently not naming Trump, may have been granted five months later; the best the media can say about it, however, is that the server on which the application centers is “possibly” related to the Trump campaign’s “alleged” links to two Russian banks — under circumstances in which the FBI has previously found no “nefarious purpose” in some (undescribed) connection between Trump Tower and at least one Russian bank (whose connection to Putin’s regime is not described)
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? The New York Times (Charlie Savage) Dated January 12th 2017:
WASHINGTON — In its final days, the Obama administration has expanded the power of the National Security Agency to share globally intercepted personal communications with the government’s 16 other intelligence agencies before applying privacy protections.
The new rules significantly relax longstanding limits on what the N.S.A. may do with the information gathered by its most powerful surveillance operations, which are largely unregulated by American wiretapping laws. These include collecting satellite transmissions, phone calls and emails that cross network switches abroad, and messages between people abroad that cross domestic network switches.
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? The New York Times (MICHAEL S. SCHMIDT, MATTHEW ROSENBERG, ADAM GOLDMAN and MATT APUZZO ) Dated January 19th 2017:
[…] The F.B.I. is leading the investigations, aided by the National Security Agency, the C.I.A. and the Treasury Department’s financial crimes unit. The investigators have accelerated their efforts in recent weeks but have found no conclusive evidence of wrongdoing, the officials said. One official said intelligence reports based on some of the wiretapped communications had been provided to the White House
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