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Posted by 3nOut
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Posted on 8/26/25 at 3:02 pm to
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What's your assessment - he's a purist true believer trying to use this rightwing discontented moment to evangelize liberalism to the American right (while the right is at arguably it's post liberal/anti-liberal peak)?


Libertarianism, but yes absolutely I think that’s what he’s doing.
Posted by Madking
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Posted on 8/26/25 at 3:02 pm to
I said they were both very limited. Your comment doesn’t refute anything I said.
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 8/26/25 at 3:03 pm to
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See this is what you idiots are learning, how to use tactics so you can skirt any facts. What’s the difference between he and Owens?

He doesn’t make outlandish arguments to get clicks and try to dunk on half retarded college kids. That’s a pretty major difference.
Posted by Geekboy
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Posted on 8/26/25 at 3:03 pm to
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Murray lost that day by being arrogant


Agreed. Really stupid move. I still like Murray. Actually really like both of them.
Posted by Madking
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Posted on 8/26/25 at 3:04 pm to
Another projection, I’ve seen basically his entire career. You’ve only started watching him a couple months back.
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 8/26/25 at 3:04 pm to
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You clearly have never watched a moment of Dave Smith. You’re an idiot.

Of course he hasn’t. Everyone trying to make him out to be some grifter hasn’t consumed anything more that 3 to 10 min clips of his content
Posted by Madking
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Posted on 8/26/25 at 3:04 pm to
Again you just like his style more which is what I’ve been saying
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 8/26/25 at 3:05 pm to
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Posted by Madking
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Posted on 8/26/25 at 3:05 pm to
Oh he’s not a grifter? You might want to go do some research buddy
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
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Posted on 8/26/25 at 3:06 pm to
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I do think they're all in a much larger category of folks who are looking to exploit the skeptical mood of the right for the personal benefit and that this motivation dominates over any ideological lean.

I"m not the biggest fan of Dave Smith's rhetoric (especially how he plays the "muh CIA" card so lazily and commonly), but he's not this.

The difference is sincerity of the belief, which he clearly has, and the grifters do not. He's held the same positions for a long time.

He's not Tucker pulling 147 degree turns on principles to appeal to the latest online MAGA talking point (like simping for Russia, my god).
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 8/26/25 at 3:12 pm to
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Oh he’s not a grifter? You might want to go do some research buddy

You should adhere to your own comments, retard

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See this is what you idiots are learning, how to use tactics so you can skirt any facts


I’ve probably listed to well over 60 hours of his content over the years. You’ve obviously listened to almost none so you should probably just shut the frick up before you show your arse even more.
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 8/26/25 at 3:12 pm to
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Posted by Madking
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Posted on 8/26/25 at 3:14 pm to
You’d lose that bet but I get that false accusations are your thing so you can keep making them all you like.
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 8/26/25 at 3:15 pm to
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The difference is sincerity of the belief, which he clearly has, and the grifters do not. He's held the same positions for a long time.

This is what people who don’t like him don’t want to hear. You can say a lot of things about him but being dishonest, inconsistent, and contradictory are adjectives you can use to describe him. He probably admits that he’s happy to be proven wrong at least 3x a show
Posted by Madking
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Posted on 8/26/25 at 3:15 pm to
Typical dishonesty and delusion from the unhinged
Posted by 3nOut
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 8/26/25 at 3:16 pm to
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The difference is sincerity of the belief, which he clearly has, and the grifters do not. He's held the same positions for a long time


Dammit, I’m agreeing with SFP.

I think he is wrong often but he’s consistent.

He said “I’m probably going to regret it and expect me to criticize him often, but I’m going to vote for Trump. When he does dumb shite I’ll call him out on it.”

And that has been entirely accurate.
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 8/26/25 at 3:16 pm to
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You’d lose that bet but I get that false accusations are your thing so you can keep making them all you like.

You’ve literally contributed nothing to this discussion. You won’t even back your own position with any substance
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 8/26/25 at 3:16 pm to
More projection
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
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Posted on 8/26/25 at 3:17 pm to
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You’ve literally contributed nothing to this discussion. You won’t even back your own position with any substance


It's MadKing. This is what he does

Here, MSB, and Movie/TV board...it's the same every time
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 8/26/25 at 3:17 pm to
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