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re: Top Dem Lawmaker Cartwright: Democrats Will Not Pass President Trump’s USMCA

Posted on 12/2/18 at 12:19 pm to
Posted by chity
Chicago, Il
Member since Dec 2008
6077 posts
Posted on 12/2/18 at 12:19 pm to
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what's the reasoning aside from being obstructionists?


Policy is racist.

No further discussion is aloud once this claim is made.
Posted by OchoDedos
Republic of Texas
Member since Oct 2014
34012 posts
Posted on 12/2/18 at 12:20 pm to
Who was the guy that said if Congress obstructed his agenda, he had a pen and a phone?

It works both ways.
Posted by Gaspergou202
Metairie, LA
Member since Jun 2016
13494 posts
Posted on 12/2/18 at 12:20 pm to
So Cartwright must have missed high school on the days that his government teacher talked about the president negotiating treaties and the SENATE confirming them! The House is just a spectator.

There’s that nasty Constitution getting in the way of the goals of the Democratic Party again!
Posted by 90proofprofessional
Member since Mar 2004
24445 posts
Posted on 12/2/18 at 12:22 pm to
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Then nothing


it seems quite unlikely that the courts would rule that congress keeping us in a decades-old trade structure doesn't fall under their constitutional authority to regulate commerce with foreign nations
Posted by 90proofprofessional
Member since Mar 2004
24445 posts
Posted on 12/2/18 at 12:23 pm to
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Who was the guy that said if Congress obstructed his agenda, he had a pen and a phone?


that's why most of his "legacy" was so easy to undo
Posted by alatxtgr
The Nation of Texas
Member since Sep 2006
2282 posts
Posted on 12/2/18 at 7:54 pm to
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Can they not pass this in the lame duck session?
Possibility that Trump wants this to be an Albatross around the neck of the Dim’s...
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
Member since Mar 2006
34625 posts
Posted on 12/2/18 at 8:01 pm to
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Possibility that Trump wants this to be an Albatross around the neck of the Dim’s...


Make them vote against an agreement that is good for America. Make them deliberately harm the US economy for political gain. Make it public, for all to see.
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
46002 posts
Posted on 12/2/18 at 9:05 pm to
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Possibility that Trump wants this to be an Albatross around the neck of the Dim’s...

Make them vote against an agreement that is good for America. Make them deliberately harm the US economy for political gain. Make it public, for all to see.


If it were only that easy, the Dim Media will make sure to twist the truth and put the blame on the POTUS.
Posted by cokebottleag
I’m a Santos Republican
Member since Aug 2011
24028 posts
Posted on 12/2/18 at 9:35 pm to
It might go to the court, but the constitution is pretty clear. In section one it is specific in referencing the house for specific powers, and then lists general powers for congress.

In article 2, it is specific that the senate is the approving authority for treaties.

There isn’t a legal case to stand on, and in any case, going with the interpretation that the house can block treaties would upend 250 years of precedent.

It’s unlikely, to say the least.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50375 posts
Posted on 12/2/18 at 9:58 pm to
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Top Dem Lawmaker Cartwright: Democrats Will Not Pass President Trump’s USMCA


Not sure how he could think this is a smart play. I also think enough House Dems would cross over that it would probably pass the House regardless.
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