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re: Too bad this Afghanistan debacle didn't happen under Trump..

Posted on 8/18/21 at 2:30 pm to
Posted by Madking
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Posted on 8/18/21 at 2:30 pm to
Same intel and military brass. What that guy is saying is a dishonest attempted excuse.
This post was edited on 8/18/21 at 2:31 pm
Posted by Tigertoof
Arizona
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Posted on 8/18/21 at 2:31 pm to
No, didn’t say I wanted everyone to speak as I do. I said I wish all would be held equally accountable for this situation.


[Biden fricked up. Sorry it ruined your opinion. ]
That doesn’t ruin my opinion. On every level I can acknowledge Bidens poor leadership and the poor leadership of Trump, Obama, and Bush…can you?
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 8/18/21 at 2:33 pm to
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Same intel and military brass.


And it's public knowledge that he ignored his intel.
Posted by Tigertoof
Arizona
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Posted on 8/18/21 at 2:33 pm to
Absolutely! He had 8 months and laid an egg! Now give the same criticism for Bush, Obama, and Trump!
Posted by Delta9
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Posted on 8/18/21 at 2:33 pm to
Believe nothing. Question everything.
Posted by RT1941
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Posted on 8/18/21 at 2:34 pm to
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Yes, Joe should have done many things differently but so should the other three period!

The "other three" didn't strand +10,000 Americans in Afghanistan and provide absolutely zero exit plan for our people.
Posted by Tigertoof
Arizona
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Posted on 8/18/21 at 2:35 pm to
Please detail the fabrication you accuse me of making. What specificity are you saying that I am making up?
Posted by Tigertoof
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Posted on 8/18/21 at 2:36 pm to
If you can’t see how collective choices lead to end results then I can’t help you.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 8/18/21 at 2:36 pm to
Milley and the rest were actively working against Trump anyway so to say that the Dems were caught off guard is just a thin and ill conceived talking point.
Posted by Lynxrufus2012
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Posted on 8/18/21 at 2:36 pm to
So why didn't Joe change the plan?
He was willing to gut the Keystone Pipeline.
Willing to open the border.
Willing to re-institute the Iran deal.

Look. You can blame the Treaty of Versailles if you want to but Biden owns this now.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Posted on 8/18/21 at 2:36 pm to
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sugar71



What a twat
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 8/18/21 at 2:36 pm to
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I said I wish all would be held equally accountable for this situation.


One person is responsible for the way we left.

One.

This is August. It isn't January.

Obama isn't to blame for the shitty way we left last weekend.

Bush is not to blame for the shitty way we left last weekend.


The person who is closing in on a year of his Presidency is to blame for the shitty way we left.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 8/18/21 at 2:38 pm to
That Biden wasn’t briefed or that using something as silly as that can be a plausible excuse. The same intel and military personnel now work for Biden and FYI he ignored their counsel anyway.
This post was edited on 8/18/21 at 2:39 pm
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 8/18/21 at 2:39 pm to
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Absolutely! He had 8 months and laid an egg! Now give the same criticism for Bush, Obama, and Trump!




None of those three had the last 8 months to figure out how to prevent an international embarrassment. None of those three got on television and reassured American citizens that this would happen.

None of them.

8 months.

He had the intel.

He ignored the intel.


He fricked this pig.
This post was edited on 8/18/21 at 2:41 pm
Posted by Tigertoof
Arizona
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Posted on 8/18/21 at 2:43 pm to
That is such a lie! My brother was stationed there for two years with rounds/rpgs being fired at them. Taliban went from 5% occupancy to 50% over the last 4 years
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 8/18/21 at 2:44 pm to
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That is such a lie! My brother was stationed there for two years with rounds/rpgs being fired at them. Taliban went from 5% occupancy to 50% over the last 4 years



Biden would have ignored his intel.
Posted by Tigertoof
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Posted on 8/18/21 at 2:46 pm to
And so did Trump
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 8/18/21 at 2:47 pm to
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And so did Trump





Trump isn't President.
Posted by roadGator
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Posted on 8/18/21 at 2:47 pm to
What’s your TDS patient number? 3?
Posted by Tigertoof
Arizona
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255 posts
Posted on 8/18/21 at 2:48 pm to
Now show me where I said Biden wasn’t briefed…
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