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re: Tonight's vote on the CR-billl gave us some clarity on who are not real conservatives

Posted on 12/19/24 at 7:54 pm to
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
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Posted on 12/19/24 at 7:54 pm to
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"Yes, I think this bill is better than it was yesterday on certain respects. But to take this bill yesterday and congratulate yourself because it's shorter in pages, but increases the debt by $5 trillion is asinine."

"I am absolutely sickened by a party that campaigns on fiscal responsibility and has the temerity to go forward to the American people and say you think this is fiscally responsible."
Just look at this RINO. —OnlyTrumperz.
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
39609 posts
Posted on 12/19/24 at 7:57 pm to


You don't like pie?
Posted by theballguy
Member since Oct 2011
30619 posts
Posted on 12/19/24 at 7:58 pm to
Trump is a man of the people.

Not far right.

Not left.

Just right.
Posted by lsuguy84
Madisonville
Member since Feb 2009
26314 posts
Posted on 12/19/24 at 7:58 pm to
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Remember what Rush used to say..."Everything is political 100 % of the time". That means that Chip and the Freedom Caucus and everyone else up there is playing politics and they don't give a damn about conservatism. They are all fighting for a piece of the pie and daddy took the pie away.


Or maybe, Trump got involved and was trying to appease both sides and it didn’t work out. Looks like neither bill should’ve been backed, and actually forcing a shutdown, and negotiating a better deal, would’ve been more in line with “draining the swamp” and DOGE?
Posted by frogtown
Member since Aug 2017
5729 posts
Posted on 12/19/24 at 7:59 pm to
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That means that Chip and the Freedom Caucus and everyone else up there is playing politics and they don't give a damn about conservatism.


BS. They back up their ideology with their votes. That is what matters.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466158 posts
Posted on 12/19/24 at 7:59 pm to
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I have a hunch that many of those listed are just enjoying playing both sides.

Naw. Spending is always at the top of my list of issues.

MAGA claims this, too, but is quick to flip the position when told to (like today)

Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
39609 posts
Posted on 12/19/24 at 8:00 pm to
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Or maybe, Trump got involved and was trying to appease both sides and it didn’t work out. Looks like neither bill should’ve been backed, and actually forcing a shutdown, and negotiating a better deal, would’ve been more in line with “draining the swamp” and DOGE?


Johnson was on the plane with Trump and Musk. Might have been the plan all along.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
21813 posts
Posted on 12/19/24 at 8:01 pm to
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They are all fighting for a piece of the pie and daddy took the pie away.

Who's daddy and what is the pie you're referring to.

quote:

Remember what Rush used to say..."Everything is political 100 % of the time".

That means that Chip and the Freedom Caucus and everyone else up there is playing politics and they don't give a damn about conservatism.

It's not clear what you're suggesting here.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
62571 posts
Posted on 12/19/24 at 8:02 pm to
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Or maybe, Trump got involved and was trying to appease both sides and it didn’t work out. Looks like neither bill should’ve been backed, and actually forcing a shutdown, and negotiating a better deal, would’ve been more in line with “draining the swamp” and DOGE?
This. It’s really similar to the immigration bill that was on the table and Trump stepped on his own d+ck for.

I like most of what Trump (allegedly) stands for, but he is terrible at implementing his agenda. I guess spicy tweets are better than nothing?
This post was edited on 12/19/24 at 8:04 pm
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
39609 posts
Posted on 12/19/24 at 8:02 pm to
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BS. They back up their ideology with their votes. That is what matters.


They vote no no matter what.

They are mostly frauds.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 12/19/24 at 8:04 pm to
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List for me the conservative republicans.



Look for the republican no votes and you'll have a decent list.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
21813 posts
Posted on 12/19/24 at 8:04 pm to
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They vote no no matter what.

They are mostly frauds.

Don't know about that. Biggs, Crane, Lesko and Gosar (all of AZ) are huge Trump supporters and about as legit as conservatives as you'll find in Washington and they all voted no.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
62571 posts
Posted on 12/19/24 at 8:05 pm to
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Johnson was on the plane with Trump and Musk. Might have been the plan all along.
Im guessing they were going to try and sneak the second bill through and call it a “win” because it was fewer pages. They got busted.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 12/19/24 at 8:06 pm to
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Don't know about that. Biggs, Crane, Lesko and Gosar (all of AZ) are huge Trump supporters and about as legit as conservatives as you'll find in Washington and they all voted no.


Obviously they a MINOs.

Amiright?!
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
39609 posts
Posted on 12/19/24 at 8:06 pm to
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Who's daddy and what is the pie you're referring to.



Whoever was responsible for killing the original CR.

quote:

quote:
Remember what Rush used to say..."Everything is political 100 % of the time".

That means that Chip and the Freedom Caucus and everyone else up there is playing politics and they don't give a damn about conservatism.

It's not clear what you're suggesting here.


The Freedom Caucus is just a political group faking it.
This post was edited on 12/19/24 at 8:08 pm
Posted by lsuguy84
Madisonville
Member since Feb 2009
26314 posts
Posted on 12/19/24 at 8:07 pm to
That’s pretty much my read on the situation.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
62571 posts
Posted on 12/19/24 at 8:07 pm to
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Obviously they a MINOs.

Amiright?!
No, no, no, they are secretly. Biden/Harris voters. Haven’t you learned anything around here?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296564 posts
Posted on 12/19/24 at 8:09 pm to
quote:

"Yes, I think this bill is better than it was yesterday on certain respects. But to take this bill yesterday and congratulate yourself because it's shorter in pages, but increases the debt by $5 trillion is asinine."

"I am absolutely sickened by a party that campaigns on fiscal responsibility and has the temerity to go forward to the American people and say you think this is fiscally responsible."


quote:


Just look at this RINO. —OnlyTrumperz.


Theyre more interested in economic indicators looking decent for Trump than attacking debt. They;re furiously trying to destigmatize "debt" right now.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
21813 posts
Posted on 12/19/24 at 8:09 pm to
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The Freedom Caucus is just a political group faking it

Well, yeah - they're a political group.

What are they faking?
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
39609 posts
Posted on 12/19/24 at 8:09 pm to
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Im guessing they were going to try and sneak the second bill through and call it a “win” because it was fewer pages. They got busted.


I'm not doubting the plan, but what did they get busted doing?

Political maneuver or spending money?
This post was edited on 12/19/24 at 8:10 pm
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