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re: Tommie Robinson and the Brits revolution. Is it just going to fizzle out?
Posted on 8/4/24 at 10:42 am to upgrayedd
Posted on 8/4/24 at 10:42 am to upgrayedd
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Yes, redressing of grievances has nothing to do with democracy
What does it have to do with voting?
Or are you defining "democracy" like a Leftist and letting it be whatever you want for whatever discussion you're in?
Go re-read the Federalist Papers. Our actual electoral system is specifically designed to minimize impact of emotional ploys like protesting and the mob rule that results from it.
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Posted on 8/4/24 at 10:43 am to Godfather1
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You have no friends.
Posted on 8/4/24 at 10:43 am to Azkiger
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They don't care about polls, they care about protecting their kids against grooming gangs.
They've tried it your way. The media runs interference and more of their kids get groomed.
You didn't answer
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How do you plan on using guns in "self defense", exactly?
Posted on 8/4/24 at 10:46 am to SlowFlowPro
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You didn't answer
Theyre going to use the guns as paper weights for strongly worded complaints to politicians already dead set on bringing in more Muslims.
How TF else do you think guns are used?
Posted on 8/4/24 at 10:47 am to Azkiger
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Theyre going to use the guns as paper weights for strongly worded complaints to politicians already dead set on bringing in more Muslims.
How TF else do you think guns are used?
I didn't want to be accused of using a straw man so I wanted you to define the framing.
So you mean they're going to use guns to kill illegal immigrants?
Posted on 8/4/24 at 10:48 am to SlowFlowPro
That’s right.
Nobody likes you.
Nobody likes you.
Posted on 8/4/24 at 10:52 am to Godfather1
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Nobody likes you.
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That’s right.
But that's not right.
Posted on 8/4/24 at 10:52 am to SlowFlowPro
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What does it have to do with voting?
Classic SFP.
Steer the argument to where you want it to go, not where it is.
Posted on 8/4/24 at 10:53 am to SlowFlowPro
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But that's not right.
Yeah, ok.
Posted on 8/4/24 at 10:54 am to upgrayedd
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Classic SFP.
It seems he is struggling without Hank around to take the heat.
He lost a mentor.
Posted on 8/4/24 at 10:54 am to SlowFlowPro
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So you mean they're going to use guns to kill illegal immigrants?
Don't you think you need to add more context? Where did the "child grooming" complaint go?
Posted on 8/4/24 at 10:55 am to upgrayedd
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Steer the argument to where you want it to go, not where it is.
Me asking you to defend (well, explain is better) your point is not steering.
You're just making conclusory statements and ad hom attacks without a logical response.
Here is how this went:
upgrayedd: I'm right
SFP: how?
upgrayedd: I'M RIGHT
SFP: can you even articulate the point you're trying to make?
upgrayedd: STOP TRYING TO DIVERT THE DISCUSSION
Posted on 8/4/24 at 10:56 am to Azkiger
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Don't you think you need to add more context?
I literally just asked you to do exactly this. Twice.
So I will let you "add context" for the third time:
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How do you plan on using guns in "self defense", exactly?
This post was edited on 8/4/24 at 10:57 am
Posted on 8/4/24 at 11:00 am to Covingtontiger77
I’ll say it.
Britain’s only hope for survival is a strong fascist leader. Robinson needs to win over the military who matter and take back what is theirs.
Glad we are not there.
Yet.
Britain’s only hope for survival is a strong fascist leader. Robinson needs to win over the military who matter and take back what is theirs.
Glad we are not there.
Yet.
Posted on 8/4/24 at 11:00 am to SlowFlowPro
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I literally just asked you to do exactly this. Twice.
I added the context of having to deal with grooming gangs.
You immediately drop that context and ask me if I'm talking about dealing with illegal immigrants.
Stop playing dumb.
This post was edited on 8/4/24 at 11:02 am
Posted on 8/4/24 at 11:01 am to Lsupimp
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But that’s a far cry from what I’m talking about. He’s like the “ Awkually “ meme come to life and on an eternal loop.
I get it and won’t dispute because I don’t know the history. I’m just saying I can see how a lot of little things like I described, over time, could lead to someone being “reviled”.
Posted on 8/4/24 at 11:04 am to Azkiger
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I added the context of having to deal with grooming gangs.
That adds no context to how you plan on using the guns.
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How do you plan on using guns in "self defense", exactly?
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You immediately drop that context and ask me if I'm talking about dealing with illegal immigrants.
This is a thread about illegal immigration.
Your initial reply was to my post stating
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Guns won't win this political debate
"This political debate" = illegal immigration
Posted on 8/4/24 at 11:06 am to SlowFlowPro
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Me asking you to defend (well, explain is better) your point is not steering.
I said redressing of grievances is a part of democracy then you went on a diatribe about voting and then you said I didn’t explain anything
Again, classic SFP when he’s in pure argument winning mode.
Posted on 8/4/24 at 11:08 am to Hateradedrink
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I don’t know the history.
I have remained politically consistent.
Many on here shift their political stances. So they were Bush republicans, then Romney Republicans, then Tea Party, then Tea Party 2.0, and now MAGA.
So in that period of self-identification as "smaller government", my stances were quite popular.
However, now that MAGA is the groupie identification du jour, my intellectual consistency faces exactly what you are describing.
It got worse around 2019 when the Q thread blew up and we got a huge influx of random posters. It REALLY amplified the pattern you're describing both by adding people to the echo chamber and lowering the IQ of the general participant. The emotional increase of Q and losing in 2020 amplified it again.
This phenomenon with me didn't really start until 2019-2020.
Posted on 8/4/24 at 11:09 am to RogerTheShrubber
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It seems he is struggling without Hank around to take the heat. He lost a mentor.
The funny part is he thinks he’s some intellectual powerhouse
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