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re: Toll Bridges in Louisiana: "We Comin'"

Posted on 4/17/21 at 10:14 am to
Posted by RonLaFlamme
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2016
1677 posts
Posted on 4/17/21 at 10:14 am to
Am I mistaken, or wasn't the Sunshine Bridge in Donaldsonville a toll bridge back in the 80's and early 90's?
Posted by oldskule
Down South
Member since Mar 2016
15476 posts
Posted on 4/17/21 at 10:16 am to
I despise road tolls...especially booth stations!

I travel this entire country and LA has the fewest tolls I have seen...lets keep it that way.
Posted by PUB
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2017
18137 posts
Posted on 4/17/21 at 10:26 am to
Like the Causeway toll which only goes up? Whose pocket is that one lining?
This post was edited on 4/17/21 at 10:27 am
Posted by tigerpawl
Can't get there from here.
Member since Dec 2003
22241 posts
Posted on 4/17/21 at 10:26 am to
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I travel this entire country and LA has the fewest tolls I have seen
I noticed that...
Posted by ClientNumber9
Member since Feb 2009
9315 posts
Posted on 4/17/21 at 10:28 am to
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I’m all for tolls if that means better roads and infrastructure.


We already pay taxes for this. Having a toll is just getting taxed twice for the same project. Think of the toll as the tax that keeps the roads together while the first tax you paid goes into some politician's vacation fund.
Posted by tigerpawl
Can't get there from here.
Member since Dec 2003
22241 posts
Posted on 4/17/21 at 10:29 am to
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We already pay taxes for this.
Why are we $13 Billion behind in needed improvements?
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Think of the toll as the tax that keeps the roads together while the first tax you paid goes into some politician's vacation fund.
More barbershop talk and generalizing. Tolls are a tax only on the people that use the bridge. Why should people in Shreveport pay taxes for a new bridge/tunnel in Belle Chasse?
This post was edited on 4/17/21 at 10:33 am
Posted by ClientNumber9
Member since Feb 2009
9315 posts
Posted on 4/17/21 at 10:31 am to
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Like the Causeway toll which only goes up? Whose pocket is that one lining?


Exactly. The Causeway is a complete POS. No shoulder, tiny lanes, uneven pavement. But it's been paid for 50 times over. And that's before you count the revenue coming from the ticket writers, which are located every half mile.
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
45799 posts
Posted on 4/17/21 at 10:47 am to
In Louisiana, First come the tolls then come the toll cops
Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
14485 posts
Posted on 4/17/21 at 11:03 am to
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I’m all for tolls if that means better roads and infrastructure. Roads don’t pay for themselves. Look at Texas.


This.

The big problem comes later when the locals complain and state passes a law that says locals don't have to pay.

Then collections go down and the state has to kick in the extra money.

Wait, it will happen.
Posted by Bulldogblitz
In my house
Member since Dec 2018
26776 posts
Posted on 4/17/21 at 11:04 am to
Just make a BLM bridge and be done with it.
Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
14485 posts
Posted on 4/17/21 at 11:10 am to

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KEY word ... this is Louisiana and I just had a conversation with someone about this. I'm NOT in favor based on past history of theft and corruption and shite NOT getting done.


What sort of stupidity is this?

We can't increase gas taxes to fund roads and bridges because "it's Louisiana and it's corrupt" and now we can't even have tolls because "it's Louisiana and it's corrupt."

So basically we can never improve our roads. Nice.
Posted by alphaandomega
Tuscaloosa
Member since Aug 2012
13501 posts
Posted on 4/17/21 at 11:15 am to
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"Tolls are racist"

- Progressives.


Well youa re supposed to have a drivers license (with photo id on it) so... yeah its racist to use roads especially ones that have tolls.

Dont you know everything should be free, free, free, free.
Posted by tigerpawl
Can't get there from here.
Member since Dec 2003
22241 posts
Posted on 4/17/21 at 11:20 am to
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We can't increase gas taxes to fund roads and bridges because "it's Louisiana and it's corrupt" and now we can't even have tolls because "it's Louisiana and it's corrupt."

So basically we can never improve our roads. Nice.
The Pot Roast Principle

One day after school a young girl noticed that her mom was cutting off the ends of a pot roast before putting it in the oven to cook for dinner. She had seen her mom do this many times before but had never asked her why. So this time she asked and her mom replied, "I don't know why I cut the ends off, but it’s what my mom always did. Why don't you ask your Grandma?" The mom may have said this because she didn't think she had the time to think about it. Which is always a mistake. We always have time to think. We just think we don’t.

So the young girl called her grandmother on the phone and said, "Grandma why do you cut the ends off the pot roast before cooking it?" Her grandmother replied, "I don't know. That's just the way my mom always cooked it. Why don't you ask her?"

Undeterred, the girl called her great grandmother, who was living in a nursing home and asked her the same question. "Why did you cut the ends off the pot roast before cooking it?

She said, "When I was first married we had a very small oven, and the pot roast didn't fit in the oven unless I cut the ends off."
Posted by Wait For It...
Member since Jun 2012
3502 posts
Posted on 4/17/21 at 11:25 am to
It takes 3 extra minutes to go through Lake Charles using 210 instead of I-10. Making the I-10 bridge a toll would be a huge impact to local 210 travelers.
Posted by IceTiger
Really hot place
Member since Oct 2007
26584 posts
Posted on 4/17/21 at 11:27 am to
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We dont have shite here in LA to get around this state especially north and south


Other than the corruption...water is a serious roadway problem.

The state is built on a swamp...it's infrastructure is 3-4x the expense of building/maintaining through mountains.

Honestly the state should move all serious governance, military, etc. North of Alexandria (also a swamp)...save the south of the state for tourism.

Maybe move the Capitol to Ruston, Winnfield, or the like.
Posted by oldskule
Down South
Member since Mar 2016
15476 posts
Posted on 4/17/21 at 11:34 am to
I say we let Sleepy and his idiots in congress pay for our roads with the new dazzling infrastructure bill!

But it does not appear there is enough money in that bill to do much with roads and bridges....
Posted by Nicky Parrish
Member since Apr 2016
7098 posts
Posted on 4/17/21 at 11:47 am to
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Move over, Lake Pontchartrain and Leeville.

Wonder what would be the toll for a billion dollar bridge.
8 maybe 10 miles in Leeville is $3.75 for a car or truck not pulling a trailer.
Starting Golden Meadow to Leeville beginning of next year, an additional 8 or so miles.
May bump it up to $5.00.
Posted by RougeDawg
Member since Jul 2016
5823 posts
Posted on 4/17/21 at 11:57 am to
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AND MAINTAIN


This is the real bitch. Passing taxes to build stuff is sexy, nobody wants to think about how it will be maintained. Plus, the older stuff gets the more expensive it is to maintain. Louisiana has a lot of old infrastructure that costs a hell of a lot more to maintain now than it did in past decades.
Posted by tigerpawl
Can't get there from here.
Member since Dec 2003
22241 posts
Posted on 4/17/21 at 11:58 am to
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Wonder what would be the toll for a billion dollar bridge.
8 maybe 10 miles in Leeville is $3.75 for a car or truck not pulling a trailer.
Starting Golden Meadow to Leeville beginning of next year, an additional 8 or so miles.
May bump it up to $5.0
One word: Fourchon. It is not insignificant.

The Louisiana Department of Transportation and Development (DOTD) is in the process of replacing a major portion of existing LA 1 highway near Leeville, Louisiana, with a lengthy, 18 mile bridge. This area of our state's sensitive wetlands has been featured nationally as being the victim of coastal erosion and ground subsidence, and the existing LA 1 highway is literally sinking. Each year, tropical storms pose more of a threat to LA 1, which now often floods in low-level storms and strands our coastal residents, tourists and the oil industry workers who use our Port Fourchon as a primary access to Gulf operations.

This project will replace our sinking highway by constructing one of the longest bridges in Louisiana and the Americas. When complete the LA 1 Bridge will be almost as long as the nearby Pontchartrain Bridge in New Orleans, generally regarded as the world’s longest bridge. The project will be built in phases as funding permits, with the most critical sections of the project (the southernmost) built first. The first 9 miles of construction are now complete and the portion of the bridge from Leeville to Port Fourchon is open.

LA 1 highway and the replacement bridge is, in every way, a lifeline to the Lousiana coast. Our web site is designed to tell the story of this project, from its innovative design and permitting to its progress.


LINK
Posted by SantaFe
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2019
6529 posts
Posted on 4/17/21 at 1:33 pm to
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