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re: To those who oppose the Big Beautiful Bill

Posted on 6/5/25 at 8:42 am to
Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
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Posted on 6/5/25 at 8:42 am to
Go ahead and cut military and VA and have nobody serve and have your kids get drafted. Again there are major consequences once you start cutting military, VA, social security, Medicare etc. I’m not surprised soys who never served wanting to cut things that don’t affect them at a time where we need the strongest military.
Posted by ArcticTiger
North Pole
Member since Nov 2018
2844 posts
Posted on 6/5/25 at 8:43 am to
Sadly the problem is that regardless of who puts forth any bill these days there are 2' of positives followed by 100' of Pork Filled Negative Crap. The problem is that its impossible to get even 1" of the 2' of positives without the other 100' of Pork Filled Crap!
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63313 posts
Posted on 6/5/25 at 8:45 am to
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Our leaders will get fired for doing what should be done.
Correct. Ultimattely *we* are the problem.

And Trump is just like every other politician. Buying votes and adoration with our own money.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63313 posts
Posted on 6/5/25 at 8:47 am to
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Ronbots knighting for Kevin.
No one mentioned Ron, nor white knighed for McCarthy (Trump's choice for SOH). Merely pointed out the MAGA FlipFlop. Sorry if it hurts.
Posted by roadGator
DeBoar’s dome
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 6/5/25 at 8:48 am to
But I was told, rather firmly, that Trump isn’t a politician but instead and outsider sent to drain the swamp.


Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63313 posts
Posted on 6/5/25 at 8:48 am to
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Show me 4 trillion in cuts then
There right there on the left side of your circle. And you don't need to cut $4T. $2T would put us into a surplus.
Posted by Bunkie7672
Member since Mar 2020
1306 posts
Posted on 6/5/25 at 8:49 am to
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But Elons not helping selling this bill


What would make you think Elon would sell this bill?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476598 posts
Posted on 6/5/25 at 8:50 am to
Where was this nuance when Gaetz was having his crusade against McCarthy?
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63313 posts
Posted on 6/5/25 at 8:50 am to
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And it can’t be cut.
The hell it can't. There's no constitutional mandate that those spending levels are fixed.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476598 posts
Posted on 6/5/25 at 8:50 am to
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I'm old enough to remember when MAGA folks got a house speaker tossed over this. Now they don't want it. But I guess that was a loooooong time ago.


Damn
Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
Member since Oct 2013
86110 posts
Posted on 6/5/25 at 8:50 am to
Never seen you guys so worried until it involved Trump. None of this concern and cutting any other time.
Posted by roadGator
DeBoar’s dome
Member since Feb 2009
157746 posts
Posted on 6/5/25 at 8:52 am to
The hell it can't.

Stop. You’ve already been told by someone smarter than you that heard it somewhere.

IT CANT BE CUT!!!!!
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63313 posts
Posted on 6/5/25 at 8:53 am to
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ut, I'm guessing there is some pork/military boondoggle aspects in there
And on top of those supplementals.... Trump says he want DoD to be over $1T, about a $300B increase. But I'm confident there is no pork in military speding. No siree! Lean as can be!
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476598 posts
Posted on 6/5/25 at 8:54 am to
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But I'm confident there is no pork in military speding. No siree! Lean as can be!


No waste or fraud either
Posted by PhtevenWithaV
Member since Jul 2022
1066 posts
Posted on 6/5/25 at 8:55 am to
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What bill do you propose they pass that will do everything you want and get 60 votes in the Senate?


As many small bills as it takes instead of one massive omnibus bill. frick Trump and most of the republicans ran promising to stop passing massive omnibus bills but here we are a massive garbage omnibus bill thats not likely to pass in the senate now
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63313 posts
Posted on 6/5/25 at 8:57 am to
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Go ahead and cut military and VA and have nobody serve and have your kids get drafted. Again there are major consequences once you start cutting military, VA, social security, Medicare etc.
This is silly. All the money for those social programs comes from our economy (either now or in the future when the debt comes due). You only accounted for one side of the deal (just like democrats do!). I can make ANYTHING look awesome if we only account for hte spending side of it. Why not spend $100T? Think of how big our economy could be, if we'd only spend enough!

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I’m not surprised soys who never served wanting to cut things that don’t affect them at a time where we need the strongest military.

Now go ahead tell us there's no pork in the VA...
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Also Trumpets: Are you fricking crazy, a spending cut might negatively impact our free isht from the government!!!!!
This post was edited on 6/5/25 at 9:03 am
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63313 posts
Posted on 6/5/25 at 8:58 am to
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But I was told, rather firmly, that Trump isn’t a politician but instead and outsider sent to drain the swamp.
It's pretty amazing how powerless he got AFTER being elected.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299152 posts
Posted on 6/5/25 at 8:59 am to
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Trump says he want DoD to be over $1T, about a $300B increase.


A few weeks after saying he might cut it in half.
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Defense stocks drop after Trump says Pentagon spending could be halved
Published February 13, 2025




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Trump promises $1 trillion in defense spending for next year
Tuesday, Apr 8, 2025

Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63313 posts
Posted on 6/5/25 at 8:59 am to
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Where was this nuance when Gaetz was having his crusade against McCarthy?
Muh 12 bills!
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63313 posts
Posted on 6/5/25 at 9:01 am to
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Never seen you guys so worried until it involved Trump. None of this concern and cutting any other time.
Yeah, I've never mentioned the budget and defict before Jan 2025.
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