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re: To the citizens of Taiwan.....RUN!!!

Posted on 5/27/24 at 6:53 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 5/27/24 at 6:53 am to
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Their scientists and engineers are very good at technical immitation but they lack imagination.

Correct. It's a big reason why China is fricked economically long-term. They never took a step to really creating anything. They have low-margin, lower-level manufacturing/industrial output, which requires a massive population to cerate GDP (which is gone in a few decades). Their more advanced economy never really emerged and they got too used to just stealing shite.

There is this theory that taking Taiwan is seen as an economic injection (due to the microchip industry), but that's not IP and Taiwan is likely to destroy those factories before they let China have them. A long-term, organic takeover would net China the chip industry, but an invasion is likely to not accomplish the goal.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 5/27/24 at 7:50 am to
China's entire economy in both fuel and food imports is underwritten by the US Navy. China can't feed itself by itself and it sure doesn't have the fuel to launch and sustain a military campaign of a magnitude like this.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
42426 posts
Posted on 5/27/24 at 7:55 am to
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THIS is what you call fear porn, boys and girls


Your response is called a deflection.

I laid out why I feel that the world would not intervene.

Specifically state where you believe that I am wrong.

Is Biden tied (either directly or indirectly through his brother/son) to CCP $?

Has Australia and New Zealand given (conceded) influence to China (up to an including allowing the CCP to purchase land holdings that are deemed to militarily important)?

Do you believe that China would not encourage (and monetarily support) uprisings by large Muslim communities in Europe? If no, why not?

Do you think that Japan could actually go toe to toe with China? I believe that they are a big player in the big picture, that would focus primarily on defense of their own island in fear that they would be next.

Do you believe that India gives two fricks about Taiwan?

Let’s hear what you have to say (other than a BS deflection).
Posted by Deplorable Duke
Lousyana
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 5/27/24 at 7:55 am to
A billion fricking people—and they all look the same AND all have the corona.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467742 posts
Posted on 5/27/24 at 8:03 am to
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Your response is called a deflection.

No. It's a mockery of shitty fear porn fan fic that isn't close to what reality is.

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I laid out why I feel that the world would not intervene.

And it was aggressively dumb, hence the mockery.

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Is Biden tied (either directly or indirectly through his brother/son) to CCP $?

Possibly, but that conflicts with the entire reason why China would try this (Biden's aggression against China thwarting the One China Policy)

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Has Australia and New Zealand given (conceded) influence to China (up to an including allowing the CCP to purchase land holdings that are deemed to militarily important)?

Naw, but we wouldn't need them anyway.

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Do you believe that China would not encourage (and monetarily support) uprisings by large Muslim communities in Europe? If no, why not?

They couldn't because they don't have that sort of pull, and Muslim countries don't really get along with China well for the most part.

Have you forgotten the treatment of the Uyghurs? The Muslim world has not.

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Do you think that Japan could actually go toe to toe with China?

Alone? Probably not, but they would love to try in a secondary role behind us.

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Do you believe that India gives two fricks about Taiwan?

How people perceive the US as a competitor to China is what India really is. India and China are constantly on the brink of conflict, both economically and internationally. India would love a green light to add militarily to that list

India HATES China, almost as much as it hates Pakistan.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
42426 posts
Posted on 5/27/24 at 8:04 am to
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China can't feed itself by itself


This is false.

It can’t supply food at American levels. However, it can supply enough food to adequately feed its people.
That may mean only one meal a day, but it would easily be enough to survive on.

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it sure doesn't have the fuel to launch and sustain a military campaign of a magnitude like this.


This, too, is false.

China has been stockpiling coal, oil, and gas under Xi.
Can they sustain it forever, no.

Can they go deep into the future - yes.

Do they have what is needed to launch this campaign if they choose to do so….
absolutely.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467742 posts
Posted on 5/27/24 at 8:08 am to
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It can’t supply food at American levels. However, it can supply enough food to adequately feed its people.
That may mean only one meal a day, but it would easily be enough to survive on.

It would not be enough food for the population to continue to support the CCP. This breaks a fundamental tenet of the contract between the government and people.

When China was an incredibly poor, agricultural state, Mao could get away with some starvation. The modest SOL success of the recent few decades have eliminated this as an option. That's the entire sales point of the CCP. It's why the Chinese population gives up so much of their rights.

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China has been stockpiling coal, oil, and gas under Xi.

"Stockpiling"? To sustain its domestic energy needs AND a military conflict? LINK?

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Do they have what is needed to launch this campaign if they choose to do so….
absolutely.

Again, LINK?

Also, if China escalated to all out war, that Russian petro would not be flowing to China anymore.
Posted by Westbank111
Armpit of America
Member since Sep 2013
4592 posts
Posted on 5/27/24 at 8:14 am to
to all the liberal idiots in this board!

Make sure to volunteer for the next war coming, which will 100% bring the U.S. into it physically.

it’s all staged, NOBODY RESPECTS the Pedo Dementia Patient in the White House.

China will move on this prior to the election, cause more global chaos and more chances to call off the election. all part of the plan.

so go make sure to sign up and bring all your fruitcake friends!
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
18219 posts
Posted on 5/27/24 at 8:14 am to
Xi is using this tactic to help with his coming talks with Lai Ching-te.

"...these drills are testing ''the actual combat capabilities of the theater troops in joint operations,'' and that they are ''punishment for the 'Taiwan independence' separatist forces'' and are meant to serve as ''a serious warning to external forces for interference and provocation.''

"On the off chance that Taiwanese President Lai takes a more active defensive stance against these drills than his predecessor, it would also raise the risk of a limited naval or coast guard clash, but a wider conflict remains highly unlikely."

In Other Words, Xi Is Not Stupid!!
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
42426 posts
Posted on 5/27/24 at 8:20 am to
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Have you forgotten the treatment of the Uyghurs? The Muslim world has not.


The Muslim world is not monolithic except in one sense…the end goal of conquering the infidels. “Outside” money is needed for that. Chinese money, under that scenario, would be used imho. The Uighur issue is not important in the grand scheme of things. Hell, if what you suggest is the end all be all of being a Muslim, why are the Muslim countries assisting the Palestinian’s by taking them in? I doubt that you will respond, but it would be interesting to read bs.

As for the Aussies and Kiwis, your take

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we wouldn't need them anyway.


is moronic. Geographic proximity and supplies are rather important in a time of war.

As for this:
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Biden's aggression against China


is largely toothless. China has worked around (probably with the Biden regime’s assistance) any “obstacles” put in place. The CCP will simply use Canada or Mexico as middlemen.

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How people perceive the US as a competitor to China is what India really is. India and China are constantly on the brink of conflict, both economically and internationally. India would love a green light to add militarily to that list


This is also moronic.

While India hates China, they aren’t dumb enough to set themselves up for a two front war (or are you dumb enough to think that Pakistan would sit idly by). If Bangladesh wanted a piece, it would be a three front war. That is a hard pass from India imho, as they actually understand the circumstances in terms of geo-politics.

In short, you have provided nothing to refute my list.

Stick the the law.

At least in that realm, you seem knowledgeable.
This post was edited on 5/27/24 at 9:03 am
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
42426 posts
Posted on 5/27/24 at 8:21 am to
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Also, if China escalated to all out war, that Russian petro would not be flowing to China anymore.


Link?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467742 posts
Posted on 5/27/24 at 8:21 am to
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to all the liberal idiots in this board!




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China will move on this prior to the election, cause more global chaos and more chances to call off the election. all part of the plan.

So China's plan is to to ensure that the President who will stand up to them remains in office?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467742 posts
Posted on 5/27/24 at 8:22 am to
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Link?

I know our military has a trans issue in leadership, but they're don't have a mental retardation issue.
Posted by Zarkinletch416
Deep in the Heart of Texas
Member since Jan 2020
8689 posts
Posted on 5/27/24 at 8:22 am to
Yep, the ChiComs own Joe Biden. I remember a video of Joe Biden and Justin "Lil Fidel" Trudeau scurring to get to a meeting with Xi Jinging. Believe it was during a G-7 or G-20 meeting. I was stunned to see Joe Biden wearing a Chairman Mao Designer Jacket. I recall thinking - this traitor doesn't even try to hide his allegiance to Xi Jinping. I figured they were in a hurry to get their marching orders from Xi Jinping. Most Americans know what's going on here, we're not as stupid as these libtards paint us to be.

America is for sale (to the ChiComs) and Joe Biden is the salesman.

Trump 2024 - He Stands With Us
This post was edited on 5/27/24 at 10:35 am
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
18219 posts
Posted on 5/27/24 at 8:24 am to
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Flying to Taiwan in November. This may make the fares drop a little, hopefully.


When they do, please, do tell!!
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
42426 posts
Posted on 5/27/24 at 8:25 am to
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China has been stockpiling coal, oil, and gas under Xi.


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Link?


Here ya go…

It’s not just Russian oil, surprise, Saudi Arabia has ignored the Uighur issue
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
42426 posts
Posted on 5/27/24 at 8:26 am to
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our military has a trans issue


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but they're don't have a mental retardation issue.


Holy shite, just go back to bed dude.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467742 posts
Posted on 5/27/24 at 8:28 am to
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In June, China is estimated to have added 2.1 million barrels per day (bpd) of crude oil to either its commercial or strategic reserves, up from 1.77 million bpd added to inventories in May, per Russell’s calculations.

That is not a "stockpile" for war

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It’s not just Russian oil, surprise,

In a wartime scenario, only Russia and Iran could supply China, for obvious issues.

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Saudi Arabia has ignored the Uighur issue

You're conflating topics.

And we are SA's defense. In a wartime scenario, you think they'd choose to replace us with...China?
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
36072 posts
Posted on 5/27/24 at 8:35 am to
What China likes more than the idea that Taiwan should be a part of China is having everyone think that they would sacrifice men and material to accomplish it.

Whether Biden is compromised is irrelevant if there were to be hostilities. You think Biden or any American President would just allow such a thing because they would be worried about potential embarrassment?

If hostilities began in the Taiwan Straits, do you really think issues like property deeds would hold us or Australa. NZ or Canada back? That land would be seized fast.

The whole Muslim uprising in Europe thing is nonsense and fear porn on your behalf.

Could Japan by itself go toe to to with China? In total no. But the Japanese Navy is probably the second best Navy is the world. Well equipped and extremely well trained. They could make any Chinese attack hurt and hurt badly. You combine the Japanese with the US Navy. Yeah, I think we could sink a lot of ships and drown a lot of soldiers. We could put 3 big carrier groups in the area and combined with assets out of Japan and the Philippines we could make traveling in the SCS and Taiwan Straits treacherous for anything larger than individual small craft operating within sight of land. Plus we could deploy a fourth carrier at the Straits of Molocca seize all tankers and freighters headed for China and starve their asses out.

India most fefinitely would care because India is heavy into the digital world and loves the microchips. Plus there is no love lost between them and China.

We could shut their export business down and put their asses in a vice. The US could survive not having cheap Chinese made garbage as could Europe and So. America. China would shite themselves if we cut their exports by even 25%. Plus I'm cutting off their oil.

If you thinkbwe won't or can't play hard ball and pepper those fricks with 12 run innings and top of game pitching, you are severely mistaken. I'm tired of all you pussies thinking the US could not play big ball and quickly become the BIG dog in any fight.

Down vote away.

Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
42426 posts
Posted on 5/27/24 at 8:45 am to
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And we are SA's defense. In a wartime scenario, you think they'd choose to replace us with...China?


Why are YOU conflating issues. This was about stockpiling oil…which China is.

Sadly, you have posted another deflection void of substance.

Is this what you do in court as well?
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