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To cut gas costs, Democrats to focus on oil company ‘price gouging’

Posted on 4/28/22 at 10:58 am
Posted by Jbird
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 4/28/22 at 10:58 am
Democratic leaders in both chambers on Thursday took aim at the nation’s largest oil companies, accusing the industry of adopting “price gouging” tactics that have led directly to the spike in gas prices around the country.

Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) and Senate Majority Leader Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.) vowed to move swiftly in the coming weeks to vote on legislation empowering the government, at both the state and federal level, to put new curbs on the industry for the purpose of reducing costs at the pump.

“They are hoarding the windfall while keeping prices high for people at the pump,” Pelosi said during a press briefing in the Capitol. “In this time of war — in any time — there is no excuse for big oil companies to profiteer, to price-gouge or exploit families.”

The Democrats’ legislation would grant new authority to both the Federal Trade Commission (FTC) and state attorneys general to scrutinize the methods by which fuel prices are set, at both the wholesale and retail level. The new authority would include powers to slap civil penalties on those companies found in violation.

The issue has become an increasing liability for the Democrats, who control the White House and both chambers of Congress, and are scrambling to fend off attacks from Republicans blaming President Biden for the inflationary trend.

Yet Democratic leaders have rejected tax holiday, warning that there’s no way to guarantee the oil companies would pass that savings along to drivers.

“The pros of it are that it’s good PR,” Pelosi said. “The cons are that there’s no guarantee that the savings — the reduction in the federal tax — … would be passed on to the consumer.”

Schumer suggested that leadership’s strategy to focus on the oil companies was poll-tested.

“If the Republicans stand in the way of us feeling the consumer of the stranglehold of Big Oil, you think they’re going to blame that on the Democrats?” she asked.

“When the bills hit the floor,” Schumer added, “the Republicans will face a dilemma.” LINK
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 4/28/22 at 10:59 am to
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Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) and Senate Majority Leader Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.) vowed to move swiftly in the coming weeks to vote on legislation empowering the government, at both the state and federal level, to put new curbs on the industry for the purpose of reducing costs at the pump.
It's like they intentionally do the opposite of what common sense says you should do.
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 4/28/22 at 11:00 am to
Come on man it was like poll tested and shite!
Posted by TheHarahanian
Actually not Harahan as of 6/2023
Member since May 2017
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Posted on 4/28/22 at 11:01 am to

This means weeks of congressional investigations, with O&G execs hauled in front of televised hearings to be publicly belittled, with no results. The intent is to splash the Dems on everybody’s TV screens, appearing to give “The Man” hell.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 4/28/22 at 11:02 am to
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Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) and Senate Majority Leader Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.) vowed to move swiftly in the coming weeks to vote on legislation empowering the government, at both the state and federal level, to put new curbs on the industry for the purpose of reducing costs at the pump.
Soviet-style central planning. It will be different this time!
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118760 posts
Posted on 4/28/22 at 11:04 am to
So a total distraction and blame casting to remain unaccountable for Biden and the Dem's complete frick up of energy and economic policies.

These people are not dumb. They are evil.

They know what to do. Trump just showed them. They won't implement Trump's successful energy and economic policies to lower energy prices because they are beholden to the green lobby who wants higher fossil fuel prices so they can compete.
Posted by BurntOrangeMan
Dallas TX
Member since May 2021
5628 posts
Posted on 4/28/22 at 11:08 am to
-Last 2 years O/G producers operated on a net 0% margin
-Last 5 years it's 4%
-Last 10 years 6%

There is no data supporting "gouging"


Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54752 posts
Posted on 4/28/22 at 11:08 am to
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Trump just showed them. They won't implement Trump's successful energy and economic policies to lower energy prices because they are beholden to the green lobby who wants higher fossil fuel prices so they can compete.


Almost as dumb as the democrats thinking energy cos are price gouging.
Posted by MintBerry Crunch
Member since Nov 2010
4846 posts
Posted on 4/28/22 at 11:08 am to
It’s actually true

quote:

There is no data supporting "gouging"


Besides the record profits, or…?

Exxon

Two things can be true at the same time. Dems can have energy policies that suck, and also oil companies, like all other businesses, are just trying to make the line rise.

Bring the downvotes.
This post was edited on 4/28/22 at 11:15 am
Posted by jawnybnsc
Greer, SC
Member since Dec 2016
4970 posts
Posted on 4/28/22 at 11:09 am to
Shortages. It's only a matter of time. First food, then fuel. Other failures (Utility grid, internet, etc.) soon after. Brace yourselves!
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54752 posts
Posted on 4/28/22 at 11:11 am to
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Besides the record profits, or…?


Oil cos don’t set the prices, they’re mostly price takers.
Posted by MintBerry Crunch
Member since Nov 2010
4846 posts
Posted on 4/28/22 at 11:12 am to
They're keeping prices high to recover from $ lost during the pandemic.

Gas prices rise immediately when oil prices rise. When oil prices fall, gas doesn't always immediately fall. Just something to think about.
This post was edited on 4/28/22 at 11:13 am
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
12613 posts
Posted on 4/28/22 at 11:14 am to
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When the bills hit the floor,” Schumer added, “the Republicans will face a dilemma.”


In which they should all laugh and insert language suspending the Federal Gas tax for a year. Effective immediately.

Theeeeeeen we will see who faces a dilemma.
Posted by jralspanky
Fargo - Home of NDSU Bison
Member since Apr 2009
1479 posts
Posted on 4/28/22 at 11:15 am to
How are the oil companies gouging if...

Station A = 4.29
Station B = 3.48

Isn't it the retailers that are gouging
Posted by Lsudx256
DFW
Member since Mar 2016
2911 posts
Posted on 4/28/22 at 11:16 am to
Because they are incapable of self-awareness. They refuse to believe a single policy they hold could be flawed.
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54752 posts
Posted on 4/28/22 at 11:17 am to
quote:

Gas prices rise immediately when oil prices rise. When oil prices fall, gas doesn't always immediately fall. Just something to think about.


There’s a lag for a number of reasons, but consider that the inventory bought at high prices has to be sold off before low cost inventory can be bought.
Posted by TSLG
Member since Mar 2014
6724 posts
Posted on 4/28/22 at 11:17 am to
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they are beholden to the green lobby who wants higher fossil fuel prices so they can compete


The why is the sick part.

The regular man has been able to have his hand in the fossil fuel cookie jar for decades and decades.

They can't just take the regular man's hand out of the jar, so they are just starting a new jar.

Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
12613 posts
Posted on 4/28/22 at 11:19 am to
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They're keeping prices high to recover from $ lost during the pandemic.


So the 100 plus dollar a barrell oil has nothing to do with it.

They just decided to piss away profits from 16-19 just cause an energy friendly president was in office?

When they were buying damn near free oil during the lockdowns and still selling gas.. they were making money.

Use your head people. Sheesh.
Posted by wutangfinancial
Treasure Valley
Member since Sep 2015
11096 posts
Posted on 4/28/22 at 11:19 am to
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They're keeping prices high to recover from $ lost during the pandemic.


"They" don't have the materials, the labor nor the funding to increase production and have learned a hard lesson in frugalness last decade. Has anybody looked at the WTI term structure?

Historical WTI Futures Curve Data
This post was edited on 4/28/22 at 11:21 am
Posted by TheBoo
South to Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
4501 posts
Posted on 4/28/22 at 11:19 am to
quote:

hey're keeping prices high to recover from $ lost during the pandemic.

Gas prices rise immediately when oil prices rise. When oil prices fall, gas doesn't always immediately fall. Just something to think about.

Just stop.
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