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To be fair to Trump. Anyone that truly wants to stop spending and drain the swamp...
Posted on 3/25/23 at 8:49 pm
Posted on 3/25/23 at 8:49 pm
And I mean actually do it in a real, meaningful way... not just generic Republican consultant talking points... basically would have to lead a revolution and undo over a 100 years worth of federal legislation and even changes that have been made to the Constitution in the 20th Century.
It would probably kick off a civil war in America and ultimately a massive world war and mass riots and chaos. This is just the reality, because the elites who created this mess knew exactly what they were doing. They have game planned it out three or four steps ahead of anyone who has a desire to stop it.
And I would indeed be in favor of taking such drastic action (killing the FED, 16th Ammendment, FDR era social nets, LBJ era social nets, Obamacsre, NATO, the MIC, IRS, FBI, 90%+ of federal beurocracies, and bringing back the gold standard). Even though I realize there would be some pain ripping off the band-aid.
Also worth mentioning. That whoever the person is that would try to do it, would most likely be assassinated and possibly put their family at risk.
It would probably kick off a civil war in America and ultimately a massive world war and mass riots and chaos. This is just the reality, because the elites who created this mess knew exactly what they were doing. They have game planned it out three or four steps ahead of anyone who has a desire to stop it.
And I would indeed be in favor of taking such drastic action (killing the FED, 16th Ammendment, FDR era social nets, LBJ era social nets, Obamacsre, NATO, the MIC, IRS, FBI, 90%+ of federal beurocracies, and bringing back the gold standard). Even though I realize there would be some pain ripping off the band-aid.
Also worth mentioning. That whoever the person is that would try to do it, would most likely be assassinated and possibly put their family at risk.
This post was edited on 3/25/23 at 8:55 pm
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Posted on 3/25/23 at 8:53 pm to burger bearcat
yOu’rE jUsT a StUpiD CulTIsT!! DERP!!!
Posted on 3/25/23 at 8:55 pm to burger bearcat
Trump doesn't want to drain the swamp. He was the best thing to happen to the swamp.
he's the swampiest swamper that ever swamped.
he's the swampiest swamper that ever swamped.
Posted on 3/25/23 at 9:05 pm to Message Board User
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Trump doesn't want to drain the swamp. He was the best thing to happen to the swamp.
he's the swampiest swamper that ever swamped.
This is isn't really about Trump even though I know he's in my OP title. I'm really directing it at someone like HHTM who talks about Social Security reform. I'm a Ron Paulite, so I'm all for cutting big entitlement spending and defense spending, etc. But not in the way HHTM means. And the way I see it, you either mean it or not. You either have the balls and stomach to do what really needs to be done, or you don't and you just need to shut your mouth and stop bitching about the debt and spending and to stop regurgitating fake Republican window dressing ideas.
Posted on 3/25/23 at 9:05 pm to burger bearcat
You just ended up on a number of list
Posted on 3/25/23 at 9:32 pm to Message Board User
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Trump doesn't want to drain the swamp. He was the best thing to happen to the swamp.
he's the swampiest swamper that ever swamped.
The Message Board Luser never disappoints...
well, except for his parents.
Posted on 3/25/23 at 9:38 pm to burger bearcat
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And I mean actually do it in a real, meaningful way... not just generic Republican consultant talking points... basically would have to lead a revolution and undo over a 100 years worth of federal legislation and even changes that have been made to the Constitution in the 20th Century.
It would probably kick off a civil war in America and ultimately a massive world war and mass riots and chaos. This is just the reality, because the elites who created this mess knew exactly what they were doing. They have game planned it out three or four steps ahead of anyone who has a desire to stop it.
I think a well thought out Convention of States could turn the tide and bring control back to the people. I don't think it would start a civil war or mass riots/chaos, either.
Posted on 3/25/23 at 9:41 pm to burger bearcat
Excellent post. Everyone here is either oblivious or lack any apparent historical knowledge.
Posted on 3/25/23 at 9:56 pm to BengalOnTheBay
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Everyone here is either oblivious or lack any apparent historical knowledge
Your average suburbanite Republican voter who eats up lame arse talking points that the likes of HHTM, Paul Ryan, and their young Republican country club buddies spout about cutting spending and balancing the budget, they just like the talking point and that's it.
They have no idea what it would actually take to really bring this country's financial system back to its original intent and start doing things like balancing budgets and truly cutting spending. And once they found out what would have to happen, they would want no part of it.
Posted on 3/25/23 at 9:58 pm to burger bearcat
The electorate would give a massive landslide to the other side from whoever fixed spending. Then whatever they did would be reversed and likely made worse than when they started.
That's just how it is.
That's just how it is.
Posted on 3/25/23 at 10:08 pm to burger bearcat
I've already promised to do things you are asking for...
...for example, ATF is gone when I get elected. Via EO I'm going to adjust the time in federal service to make ATF employees eligible for retirement, then retire them. Same at the FBI and Dept of Ed. Many other agencies will be included as I review them. I already have proposed a minimum of $80B in cuts to the executive branch annual budget and I've barely gotten started on reviewing the budget.
Via EO, fully restoring the 2nd Amendment. Gun control is unconstitutional.
Every imaginable asset will be at the border in order to make it secure.
Our Founders made Article II a bit vague on purpose. They wanted an energetic executive and a chief executive, not a council. There are sufficient checks to prevent the rise of a monarchy, but sufficient power for the President to insure there is not an aristocracy and a runaway legislature, and/or a cooperative arrangement between the Judiciary and any other branch.
I have long term vision to insure we are still around as a nation in 100 yrs, and not just that, but that we are tightly beholden to the Constitution by that time, prosperous, and out of debt.
There is no money in my campaign and no mechanism for money to corrupt my platform or my judgment.
I am running to insure the manifest tenor of the Constitution is respected and upheld.
I'm not going to turn my back on the Constitution, my country, or the People for the sake of a few dollars. Let the consequences be what they be.
...for example, ATF is gone when I get elected. Via EO I'm going to adjust the time in federal service to make ATF employees eligible for retirement, then retire them. Same at the FBI and Dept of Ed. Many other agencies will be included as I review them. I already have proposed a minimum of $80B in cuts to the executive branch annual budget and I've barely gotten started on reviewing the budget.
Via EO, fully restoring the 2nd Amendment. Gun control is unconstitutional.
Every imaginable asset will be at the border in order to make it secure.
Our Founders made Article II a bit vague on purpose. They wanted an energetic executive and a chief executive, not a council. There are sufficient checks to prevent the rise of a monarchy, but sufficient power for the President to insure there is not an aristocracy and a runaway legislature, and/or a cooperative arrangement between the Judiciary and any other branch.
I have long term vision to insure we are still around as a nation in 100 yrs, and not just that, but that we are tightly beholden to the Constitution by that time, prosperous, and out of debt.
There is no money in my campaign and no mechanism for money to corrupt my platform or my judgment.
I am running to insure the manifest tenor of the Constitution is respected and upheld.
I'm not going to turn my back on the Constitution, my country, or the People for the sake of a few dollars. Let the consequences be what they be.
Posted on 3/25/23 at 10:10 pm to rhar61
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The electorate
This is the problem. The electorate got too big and expansive. No one wants to face it, but it is impossible to maintain a Constitutional Republic with the current demographic makeup of our electorate.
So we have basically 2 choices
1) Give up on having a Constitutional Republic and accept whatever neo-liberal Marxist global government they are going to thrust onto us
Or
2) Consolidate the electorate to limited to liberty minded, moral, and Constitutionally knowledgeable Americans
I really don't see another option.
This post was edited on 3/25/23 at 10:27 pm
Posted on 3/25/23 at 10:23 pm to burger bearcat
Trump owns this board. 
Posted on 3/25/23 at 10:29 pm to burger bearcat
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Anyone that truly wants to stop spending and drain the swamp
The Trump vs. DeSantis arguments here are hilarious considering the majority of both camps voted for McCain in 2008 and Romney in 2012 over Ron Paul.
Posted on 3/25/23 at 10:32 pm to TuDog
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Trump owns this board.
I'm not really a Trumpite. He is pretty flawed in my opinion and has alot of issues. But at least Trump is a realist on most issues. He knows Social Secuirty isn't going anywhere any time soon, so why even waste time with dorky Paul Ryan reform ideas that will just get you slaughtered in an election.
With that said, yes I of course voted for him twice, and will vote for him again in the general.
Either get real about real reform on the spending, etc. Or focus your campaign and policy on the border, trade, and war.
Posted on 3/25/23 at 10:56 pm to burger bearcat
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Also worth mentioning. That whoever the person is that would try to do it, would most likely be assassinated and possibly put their family at risk.
RFK, Jr. agrees with this post.
Everything we were taught about the nature of our government in civics class was a damnable lie.
Posted on 3/25/23 at 11:29 pm to burger bearcat
im not gonna vote for trump unless he gets rid of the 19th amendment
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