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Time to bring back "America - Love it or Leave it"

Posted on 9/24/17 at 10:19 am
Posted by Kat Kat
Member since Aug 2017
188 posts
Posted on 9/24/17 at 10:19 am
Sorry, I have traveled all over the world. Asia, Africa, Europe, the Americas. The USA overall is the best country on the planet. The only country that is the beacon of freedom and liberty. To disrespect our National Anthem on a public stage is a slap in the face of everyone that gave up their lives in defense of our freedom and liberty. There are other avenues to demonstrate one's social conscious than this.
Posted by olddawg26
Member since Jan 2013
24586 posts
Posted on 9/24/17 at 10:22 am to
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There are other avenues to demonstrate one's social conscious than this.


While I agree with the majority of your post. And without insulting back instead of an answer, what other avenues have the social impact while also being 'non violent' as what they are doing right now? Also as a follow up question, do you think they have a point for what they are protesting against?
Posted by Ole Misdial
Red Light District
Member since Sep 2017
1123 posts
Posted on 9/24/17 at 10:26 am to
No, they don't have a point for what they're protesting. When it's based on Hands Up Don't Shoot and Alton sterling justified killings that's just blatant lies and you can't honestly claim different.
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
73494 posts
Posted on 9/24/17 at 10:28 am to
Posted by olddawg26
Member since Jan 2013
24586 posts
Posted on 9/24/17 at 10:31 am to
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No, they don't have a point for what they're protesting.


That's where the issue lies between what you see them doing and why they are doing it (to them).
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
125410 posts
Posted on 9/24/17 at 10:33 am to
Who’s account is this??
Posted by Ole Misdial
Red Light District
Member since Sep 2017
1123 posts
Posted on 9/24/17 at 10:35 am to
Why don't you respond what I said after? Because you know it's based on pure lies. That's why I'll never support it
Posted by Kat Kat
Member since Aug 2017
188 posts
Posted on 9/24/17 at 10:40 am to
To me their is no Federal police. Police brutality if it exists is a local or state issue. We have federal laws on the books to combat police brutality or racism. Again our National Anthem is not the proper avenue for such protests.
Posted by olddawg26
Member since Jan 2013
24586 posts
Posted on 9/24/17 at 10:40 am to
I told you that's what THEY think. I said it twice. Your anger has blinded you from viewing something objectively.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
146789 posts
Posted on 9/24/17 at 10:41 am to
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Sorry, I have traveled all over the world. Asia, Africa, Europe, the Americas. The USA overall is the best country on the planet. The only country that is the beacon of freedom and liberty. To disrespect our National Anthem on a public stage is a slap in the face of everyone that gave up their lives in defense of our freedom and liberty. There are other avenues to demonstrate one's social conscious than this.
ditto

and did you mean to be my fav candy bar? kit kat?
Posted by olddawg26
Member since Jan 2013
24586 posts
Posted on 9/24/17 at 10:41 am to
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Again our National Anthem is not the proper avenue for such protests.


Again, I agree, but again if kapernick was me, what other avenues would you tell him to take that would have this sort of non violent impact. You've said it twice, I'm really interested in your answer.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112475 posts
Posted on 9/24/17 at 10:44 am to
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what other avenues would you tell him to take that would have this sort of non violent impact.


Vote democrat.
Posted by olddawg26
Member since Jan 2013
24586 posts
Posted on 9/24/17 at 10:45 am to
No serious answers? I'm not even on their side and I've stumped you all with a simple question. Better get some better responses boys.
Posted by DEG
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2009
10532 posts
Posted on 9/24/17 at 10:47 am to
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Time to bring back "America - Love it or Leave it"


This reeks of insecurity, which I am not and therefore cannot support it.
Posted by Jorts R Us
Member since Aug 2013
14816 posts
Posted on 9/24/17 at 10:48 am to
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No serious answers?


Wrong board for that.
Posted by cssamerican
Member since Mar 2011
7120 posts
Posted on 9/24/17 at 10:48 am to
quote:

Again, I agree, but again if kapernick was me, what other avenues would you tell him to take that would have this sort of non violent impact. You've said it twice, I'm really interested in your answer.

These guys would make a bigger impact if they would start a media campaign educating people to comply and not do anything that would be perceived as threatening. Then if you feel that your were treated unfairly contact a lawyer and pursue legal action. That might actually help people not get killed and at the same time possibly revise police tactics in a positive way.
Posted by luckylefty
new orleans
Member since May 2009
2727 posts
Posted on 9/24/17 at 10:53 am to
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To disrespect our National Anthem on a public stage is a slap in the face of everyone that gave up their lives in defense of our freedom and liberty.


I love when this is said as if the people that dies all had the same ideals. Every color and creed died for various freedoms for all people of this country- not just your grandaddy.

There are thousands of vets who fully support these players kneeling for a just cause. And believe that Trump has added more cause. And it will only progress.

So actually Trump's mission is being fulfilled, just not the way you expected.
Posted by Minnesota Tiger
Member since Oct 2005
4414 posts
Posted on 9/24/17 at 10:55 am to
So take away the first amendment?
Posted by olddawg26
Member since Jan 2013
24586 posts
Posted on 9/24/17 at 10:55 am to
quote:

These guys would make a bigger impact if they would start a media campaign educating people to comply and not do anything that would be perceived as threatening. Then if you feel that your were treated unfairly contact a lawyer and pursue legal action. That might actually help people not get killed and at the same time possibly revise police tactics in a positive way.


Okay I'm with you, but you're still failing to see WHY they are protesting. They think that regardless of how they act sometimes, they will be treated unfairly by a systemically unjust deep rooted issue. Telling them to behave better is really not going to go far. I'm just being honest since no one who supports the protest will be posting on this board.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112475 posts
Posted on 9/24/17 at 10:55 am to
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There are thousands of vets who fully support these players kneeling for a just cause


Name one.
I know at least 20 vets from relatives to golf partners to gym members. ALL of them oppose the NFL players.
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