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re: Time: Hackers changed voter rolls
Posted on 6/22/17 at 12:17 pm to TigerTattle
Posted on 6/22/17 at 12:17 pm to TigerTattle
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They can still fill out a provisional ballot, can't they?
Nope, not in the circumstance I described where they don't exist. Provisional ballots would do absolutely nothing in this case, since the voter would have no way to prove that their information is actually correct, as hacker changed system.
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Posted on 6/22/17 at 12:19 pm to 5thTiger
quote:Are you concerned that in some states a person voting doesn't have to prove he is the person named on the voter roll??
You aren't concerned that there is potential for our electoral processes to be compromised?
Posted on 6/22/17 at 12:19 pm to 5thTiger
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Albeit, somewhat a separate issue, this has happene
How many people were denied the ability to vote there?
Posted on 6/22/17 at 12:20 pm to LSURussian
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Are you concerned that in some states a person voting doesn't have to prove he is the person named on the voter roll??
Or that in some states they don't have to prove they're a citizen to register?
Posted on 6/22/17 at 12:20 pm to 5thTiger
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You aren't concerned that there is potential for our electoral processes to be compromised?
I am. Everyone should have to show ID to vote.
You know who is against voter ID?
Yeah, that party.
Posted on 6/22/17 at 12:22 pm to 5thTiger
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5thTiger
So now you believe in voter fraud? Intardesting.
Posted on 6/22/17 at 12:24 pm to the808bass
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How many people were denied the ability to vote there?
Don't know, but just the very real possibility is wrong IMO.
On ID. I'm not opposed to having ID to vote...just that voters aren't burdened by costs or time restraints(ie DMV only being open certain days of the week at certain times). I want same day voter registration with totally, 100% free ID's for voting, including precursor documents.
Posted on 6/22/17 at 12:25 pm to Bunta
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In one case, investigators found there had been a manipulation of voter data in a county database but the alterations were discovered and rectified, two sources familiar with the matter tell TIME.
Liberals won't care about that.
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Cyber-security officials testifying at the Senate hearing acknowledged for the first time the extent of the Russian effort to interfere with the election. Twenty-one states saw such intrusions last year, a senior official from the Department of Homeland Security, Jeanette Manfra, said. None of the intrusions affected the vote count itself, all the officials testified.
They won't care about this either. Why let facts ruin a good talking point.
Posted on 6/22/17 at 12:27 pm to 5thTiger
Dept of Homeland Security was PROVEN to have hacked three states voter roles.
Posted on 6/22/17 at 12:27 pm to 5thTiger
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. Ohio wrongly purged voters.
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Last year in Democrat-leaning Cuyahoga County, home to Cleveland, about 40,000 individuals were illegally purged from voter rolls for choosing not to vote, with a disproportionate number from poor and minority neighborhoods, according to the Ohio chapter of the A. Philip Randolph Institute, a labor group representing minorities.
A federal judge rejected the groups’ complaint in June after finding their claims lacked merit.
The Justice Department had urged the appeals court to reverse the district judge’s decision.
In a July brief, the department said federal law requires a voter’s removal when the voter becomes ineligible because of a change of residence, but only after the state confirms the move
You have a problem with names being removed from a register that have no business being on that register? Hell, part of them were dead people, oh, Dems love the dead because they vote democrat.
Posted on 6/22/17 at 12:27 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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There's is no such thing as voter fraud, remember?
In-person voter fraud, nope.
Voter registration fraud? Happens all the time.
Tell me which of those your favorite solution, voter ID cards, prevents and which it does nothing to stop?
Posted on 6/22/17 at 12:28 pm to 5thTiger
No they didn't.... 
Posted on 6/22/17 at 12:28 pm to TaderSalad
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So now you believe in voter fraud?
I've never said it doesnt exist, also, i dont consider this voter fraud. The kind people most often refer to (in person voting fraud), is extremely rare...and the legislation often proposed would not actually address that issue...making it essentially irrelevant to that conversation.
Posted on 6/22/17 at 12:30 pm to 5thTiger
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but just the very real possibility is wrong
Posted on 6/22/17 at 12:32 pm to 5thTiger
Maybe, but I find it convenient that the Democrats are so worried about this shite when their guy loses....but when their guy wins.....not so much.
Republicans bitch about voter fraud too, but they typically don't go all hissy fit like the Democrats do( 200, 2004 and 2016).....and BOTH sides play very interesting games with voter registration.
Republicans bitch about voter fraud too, but they typically don't go all hissy fit like the Democrats do( 200, 2004 and 2016).....and BOTH sides play very interesting games with voter registration.
Posted on 6/22/17 at 12:34 pm to MrLarson
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You have a problem with names being removed from a register that have no business being on that register?
Sure don't, nor should anyone.
But that doesn't address the issue of a rightful voter being wrongly purged, which has happened, with increasing regularity. Which is the point.
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Hell, part of them were dead people, oh, Dems love the dead because they vote democrat
As studies concluded, were 99.99% clerical errors from people with similar names.
Posted on 6/22/17 at 12:34 pm to 5thTiger
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America doesn't care for your brand of leftism
Not a leftist.
lolzy.
Posted on 6/22/17 at 12:38 pm to 5thTiger
If voter rolls have been compromised then they should all be bipartisan reviewed for accuracy. Let the chips fall where they may.
Posted on 6/22/17 at 12:38 pm to KiwiHead
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this shite when their guy loses....but when their guy wins.....not so much.
Literally everyone finds something to blame loss on besides themselves. Not partisan issue.
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Republicans bitch about voter fraud too, but they typically don't go all hissy fit like the Democrats do
You are right, and somehow I respect their gamesmanship, because they go for borderline issues like purging as they call it "illegal voters from rolls", without regard for those who are legally registered voters.
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BOTH sides play very interesting games with voter registration
Perhaps, but I err on the side of getting people registered, as is their Constitutional right.
Posted on 6/22/17 at 12:39 pm to 5thTiger
quote:Is your solution to prevent that from happening is to not ever allow anyone's name be removed from the roll? If that's not your solution, what is?
But that doesn't address the issue of a rightful voter being wrongly purged
In every case that I've read where someone's name was incorrectly removed from the voters' roll, there were remedies to correct it.
You act like once a person's name is removed, it's off the voting roll forever.
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