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re: Time: Hackers changed voter rolls

Posted on 6/22/17 at 11:41 am to
Posted by DreauxB2015
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 6/22/17 at 11:41 am to
Hackers only hack voters rolls when you lose an election and you spend 2.1 billion doing it .
Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
12458 posts
Posted on 6/22/17 at 11:44 am to
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You aren't concerned that there is potential for our electoral processes to be compromised?


You aren't concerned that the last 3 Presidential elections in which Democrats have lost they have came up with some bullshite excuse as to how someone, somewhere cheated for 6 months after said election but suddenly when Obama won , there was no cheating involved in those two elections, and then when Hillary waas thought to be a shoo in we were assured "no one can hack our elections" then suddenly when Trump beats her "Russia hacked our elections?"

Am I concerned about cheating in our elections? Of course, but I'm more concerned with the outright danger the DNC represents to democracy with their bullshite.

Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125360 posts
Posted on 6/22/17 at 11:45 am to
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You aren't concerned that the last 3 Presidential elections in which Democrats have lost they have came up with some bull shite excuse


2000: Butterfly ballot and the Supreme Court
2004: Ohio's Sec of State
2016: Russia

Democrats are pussies.
This post was edited on 6/22/17 at 11:47 am
Posted by 5thTiger
Member since Nov 2014
7996 posts
Posted on 6/22/17 at 11:48 am to
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You aren't concerned that the last 3 Presidential elections in which Democrats have lost they have came up with some bull shite excuse as to how someone, somewhere cheated for 6 months after said election

No. 1. either i was too young to actually know or care, or 2. they ran a shite campaign and just lost. Hillary especially, fricking awful campaign.
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Am I concerned about cheating in our elections? Of course

then why are you bringing up results of other elections? This is the issue at hand.
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but I'm more concerned with the outright danger the DNC represents to democracy with their bull shite.

You care more about party affiliation than our country as a whole? Weird stance, but ok.

Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
12458 posts
Posted on 6/22/17 at 11:50 am to
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You care more about party affiliation than our country as a whole? Weird stance, but ok.



Realizing that the DNC is a criminal organization masquerading as a political party has nothing to do with party affilitaion. I have no such party affiliation. I'm not particularly fond of the GOP either. But they aren't outright criminals.

Posted by TigerTattle
Out of Town
Member since Sep 2007
6686 posts
Posted on 6/22/17 at 11:54 am to
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None of the intrusions affected the vote count itself, all the officials testified.

That has not reassured some Hill leaders. “There’s no evidence they were able to affect the counting within the machines,” says the top Democrat on the House Intelligence committee, Congressman Adam Schiff of California. But, he added, “the effect on the election is quite a different matter.”


If, IF, this actually occurred, and the vote count was not affected, then how in hell was there an "effect on the election?"

The Russians have been meddling since I was a kid in the fifties and before. The US has been meddling for the same length of time. We block their efforts, they block our efforts. It was a huge part of the cold war, a high-stakes game of one-upmanship, and continues to this day.

Until we fail to prevent them from compromising an election, I don't see why people are getting their panties in a wad about it. Short of obliterating DC and the Kremlin, how can it be stopped? With a RESET button?
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32966 posts
Posted on 6/22/17 at 11:55 am to
:cough: bullshite :cough:
Posted by 5thTiger
Member since Nov 2014
7996 posts
Posted on 6/22/17 at 11:57 am to
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Realizing that the DNC is a criminal organization masquerading as a political party has nothing to do with party affilitaion. I have no such party affiliation. I'm not particularly fond of the GOP either. But they aren't outright criminals.

While I think the DNC sucks, and in bad need of house cleaning reboot, I certainly disagree that it is a "criminal organization". So on that we will have to agree to disagree.

But, that isn't really about the issue of voter rolls being changed by hackers. I'd love to hear your thoughts on that.

Instead of using every thread as a personal vent session about how much you hate the opposing political party and more about the actual issue, maybe we could #makepoliboardgreatagain. or at least, have some civilized discussion that is badly needed in this time of extreme polarization. (especially without baseless attacks ie. calling me a liberal.)
Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
20456 posts
Posted on 6/22/17 at 11:59 am to
If true, which I doubt. Explain how this would have prevented a single solitary person from voting
Posted by 5thTiger
Member since Nov 2014
7996 posts
Posted on 6/22/17 at 12:04 pm to
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If true, which I doubt. Explain how this would have prevented a single solitary person from voting

Simple, at least in theory. Hacker changes information on voter roll. Person voting information doesn't match, or potentially in some cases doesn't exist in system. Voter is either disqualified or rejected from voting, despite doing everything right registering.

This report proves it can (and perhaps has), be done. Very few things I am totally unflexible on: First Amendment Freedom of Speech protections, and Voting Rights (despite my wish that some idiotic people didn't vote)
This post was edited on 6/22/17 at 12:06 pm
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
35855 posts
Posted on 6/22/17 at 12:06 pm to
Then this is a problem for Obama and his people because he was in charge.

The next thing that will come out....just to keep this bullcrap rolling is that hackers actually manipulated votes in ....wait for it....wait for it....Pennsylvania, Meeeeshigam and Wisconsin.

I give the over under on that accusation about 10 - 12 days

The Dems will want to call for a "do over".....4 mos.
This post was edited on 6/22/17 at 12:07 pm
Posted by MrLarson
Member since Oct 2014
34984 posts
Posted on 6/22/17 at 12:06 pm to
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But, that isn't really about the issue of voter rolls being changed by hackers. I'd love to hear your thoughts on that.


what does "changed" mean?

Because in the "16 election if someone would have shown up to vote and their name was gone from the register you would have seen that person giving interviews on every TV station. Democrats have scoffed at the notion of voter fraud but since queen B got smoked it's all of a sudden voter fraud.
Posted by TigerTattle
Out of Town
Member since Sep 2007
6686 posts
Posted on 6/22/17 at 12:07 pm to
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Hacker changes information on voter roll. Person voting information doesn't match, or potentially in some cases doesn't exist in system. Voter is either disqualified or rejected from voting, despite doing everything right registering.
They can still fill out a provisional ballot, can't they?
Posted by Hawkeye95
Member since Dec 2013
20293 posts
Posted on 6/22/17 at 12:09 pm to
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They can still fill out a provisional ballot, can't they?


of course, but if they aren't registered to vote then they aren't registered to vote.

if this impacted republicans, yall would be going apeshit.

Hell, I almost want to hire hackers to hack republican counties and swap their voter rolls just to piss yall off.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133563 posts
Posted on 6/22/17 at 12:09 pm to
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America doesn't care for your brand of leftism



Not a leftist. I'm far from what normal people would consider 'liberal'.
Oh, in that case, America doesn't like YOU.
Posted by Crow Pie
Neuro ICU - Tulane Med Center
Member since Feb 2010
27137 posts
Posted on 6/22/17 at 12:10 pm to
Call a new election!!!
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
35855 posts
Posted on 6/22/17 at 12:10 pm to
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2000: Butterfly ballot and the Supreme Court
2004: Ohio's Sec of State
2016: Russia

Democrats are pussies.


They really are sore losers. If this were an athletic event, they would get their asses beat ....post game!!!!!
Posted by 5thTiger
Member since Nov 2014
7996 posts
Posted on 6/22/17 at 12:12 pm to
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Then this is a problem for Obama and his people because he was in charge.


I think it is a problem for every american. Especially Congress, who have been woefully slow and behind an upping our cyber protections with legislation.

Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
42588 posts
Posted on 6/22/17 at 12:13 pm to
Great can we MAGA now?
Posted by 5thTiger
Member since Nov 2014
7996 posts
Posted on 6/22/17 at 12:15 pm to
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Because in the "16 election if someone would have shown up to vote and their name was gone from the register you would have seen that person giving interviews on every TV station


Albeit, somewhat a separate issue, this has happened. Ohio wrongly purged voters.



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