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re: Thousands of beef cattle suddenly drop dead in Kansas

Posted on 6/16/22 at 3:18 am to
Posted by Gcockboi
Rock Hill
Member since Oct 2012
7689 posts
Posted on 6/16/22 at 3:18 am to
This is getting weird as frick. I'm going buy a shite ton of non perishable food starting tomorrow.
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
Undisclosed Secure Location
Member since Feb 2008
18637 posts
Posted on 6/16/22 at 5:01 am to
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Are you saying cows are butchered live?


Animals have to be alive when they hit the start of the processing by FDA rules. If an animal dies in transport even if it walks off the trailer and dies at the door it can’t be processed by an FDA facility.

Someone could have butchered on the ground like they were hunted, but I wouldn’t do it due to the suspicious death. Poisoned meat wouldn’t be a good thing.
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
12615 posts
Posted on 6/16/22 at 6:17 am to
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Are you saying cows are butchered live?


Are you saying you would be fine with eating meat from cattle that had been dead an unknown amount of time, that were laying in the summer heat, and had died from an unknown cause?
Posted by LRB1967
Tennessee
Member since Dec 2020
15588 posts
Posted on 6/16/22 at 6:54 am to
It is not the heat. It is just as hot here and all cows are ok.
Posted by crap4brain
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2004
2498 posts
Posted on 6/16/22 at 7:10 am to
LINK

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According to veterinarian Miles Theurer, Research Director for Veterinary Research and Consulting Services, based in Hays, Kan., market-ready cattle, with a high percentage of empty body fat, didn’t have ample time to acclimate from those low temperatures to the high temperature spikes.

“The weather event was the perfect storm, resulting in significant issues for the feedlot industry,” Theurer says.

In addition to the high heat, there was also higher than normal relative humidity in the area, with no wind speed, he said. The Mesonet shows winds averaged 5 mph over the course of the weekend, with relative humidity averaging 44.9% to 69.6%. The High Plains typically have more wind and lower humidity, allowing cattle to cool themselves better. There just wasn’t a time when the temperatures dropped enough to dissipate the heat and it accumulated adding to the stress, Theurer says.
Posted by bayoudude
Member since Dec 2007
24954 posts
Posted on 6/16/22 at 7:14 am to
Hopefully someone tested the water supply for those cattle. Seems malicious imo
Posted by AgGator
Member since Nov 2009
132 posts
Posted on 6/16/22 at 7:25 am to
On my phone so this may look like a wall of text.

These animals died from heat stress. While the total number of cattle dead in this event may be higher than most times these events, while not normal, aren’t uncommon. You can look up similar events in 2009, 2010, 2013 at least.

The combination of heat, humidity, and no wind is what can lead to this, it isn’t just temperature by itself. The other factor is the lack of night cooling during this time. That’s when cattle can dissipate their heat load from the day.

The reason cows aren’t as affected compared to these calves is in feedlot pens there is no shade and they are on dirt not grass so the surface temperature is also higher here. Add in level of finish decreasing their ability to dissipate heat even further and you can get train wrecks like these.

Can’t speak to anything else going on in the world but this is the industry that pays my bills and involves working in SW Kansas. I promise there is no government conspiracy here.

Also, those calves have been placed in rows like that to either compost, bury, count, or something else.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
21894 posts
Posted on 6/16/22 at 7:26 am to
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Anyone know what's going on here?


Damn Pfizer giving cows the jab again.
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
32240 posts
Posted on 6/16/22 at 7:29 am to
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relative humidity averaging 44.9% to 69.6%.
They don't know what high humidity even looks like.
Posted by ksayetiger
Centenary Gents
Member since Jul 2007
68305 posts
Posted on 6/16/22 at 7:36 am to
I drive by a pasture with a few hundred head every day. Middle if afternoon theu are all grazing in 95+ heat- and there are plenty of trees for shade if they wanted it

Disease is possible- but NOTHING kills 100% of the herd

Lack of water? Yeah right. No farmer would do that, and again, they wouldn't all die at once.

This is poisoning, I would bet the farm on it
Posted by WhiskeyThrottle
Weatherford Tx
Member since Nov 2017
5312 posts
Posted on 6/16/22 at 7:37 am to
You're a special kind of stupid.

Are you suggesting that they butcher a huge number of cattle that all just up and died. The options are 1: they were poisoned or 2: diseased. You gonna line up to purchase that beef?
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
27117 posts
Posted on 6/16/22 at 7:39 am to
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It is not the heat. It is just as hot here and all cows are ok.


These cows were in a feed lot, waiting to be slaughtered... It means they were about as fat as there were going to get AND in a pen / feedlot with minimal airflow...

It is not the same as cattle and other animals in the open or even younger steers that were not at a kill weight...
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
32240 posts
Posted on 6/16/22 at 7:48 am to
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Are you suggesting that they butcher a huge number of cattle that all just up and died. The options are 1: they were poisoned or 2: diseased. You gonna line up to purchase that beef?


If I shoot a deer right at dark and don't want to push it, I'll leave it overnight unless rain is expected. But, the nighttime temp has to be pretty low for me to process the meat. I kind of have an arbitrary set at 45 degrees and it needs to hit that pretty soon after dark.
Posted by Marquesa
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2020
1533 posts
Posted on 6/16/22 at 8:11 am to
Did they get the jab? Sudden Cow Death Syndrome.
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
30618 posts
Posted on 6/16/22 at 8:16 am to
Seems like they should be able to turn the cows out to pasture when conditions get like this. It’s not like we don’t have weather forecasts.
This post was edited on 6/16/22 at 8:19 am
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
32240 posts
Posted on 6/16/22 at 8:22 am to
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Did they get the jab? Sudden Cow Death Syndrome.


Someone close to me got the booster and within a few days, she developed memory issues and was diagnosed with a prion disease not unlike Mad Cow Disease and Chronic Wasting in deer and elk. She died within several weeks of the booster. It's called Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease (CJD).
Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
24786 posts
Posted on 6/16/22 at 8:28 am to
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You are a fugging nut!

You believed in Trump/Russia collusion.
Posted by J8mmyBob01
lousiana
Member since Feb 2022
63 posts
Posted on 6/16/22 at 8:56 am to
This was and is not a natural occurrence, someone poisoned these animals, just like all these food planes being destroyed is an accident.
Posted by winkchance
St. George, LA
Member since Jul 2016
4106 posts
Posted on 6/16/22 at 9:01 am to
You misspelled poisoned.
Posted by jivy26
Member since Nov 2008
2760 posts
Posted on 6/16/22 at 9:02 am to
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This post was edited on 11/7/22 at 7:28 am
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