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Posted on 12/5/23 at 6:34 pm to Riverside
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Are you saying that Ron’s supporters are basically a small sub-group within the Republican party who identify as “traditional conservatives”—whatever the hell that means?
Yes.
I'm sure his contingent includes a smattering of others too, but in general people who favor Ron are traditionalist Americans who are annoyed at the vapid nature of our culture at large, including, of course, the entirety of the Trump movement.
Posted on 12/5/23 at 6:37 pm to stout
File this under “well no shite”, and I really like Desantis, but this was a huge misstep that he will have to reconcile with conservatives. He needs to name the people that forced him to do this, and why he caved to their pressure… going anywhere forward
Posted on 12/5/23 at 6:37 pm to SDVTiger
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Thats definitely not the desantis cult
You clowns dont want to win anything
Worthless fricktards like you are going to hand Biden a reelection win. Nobody will cry about it and blame everyone else more than garbage like you
Posted on 12/5/23 at 6:38 pm to jlnoles79
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Worthless fricktards like you are going to hand Biden a reelection win
How so?
Posted on 12/5/23 at 6:38 pm to jlnoles79
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Worthless fricktards like you are going to hand Biden a reelection win. Nobody will cry about it and blame everyone else more than garbage like you
Already making excuses. Not a cult
Posted on 12/5/23 at 6:41 pm to jlnoles79
It's useful to remember that a huge percentage of the most outspoken Trump types on SM, etc. were never interested or involved in conservative ideology until Trump made it entertaining for them and gave them a community they could be a part of.
So many of those types have nothing going on - no family, no careers, etc. - you see it a good bit on this board.
So many of those types have nothing going on - no family, no careers, etc. - you see it a good bit on this board.
Posted on 12/5/23 at 6:42 pm to lsuguy84
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How so?
By refusing to let go of a man that has led us to 3 losses in a row.
Posted on 12/5/23 at 6:43 pm to Pettifogger
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It's useful to remember that a huge percentage of the most outspoken Trump types on SM, etc. were never interested or involved in conservative ideology until Trump made it entertaining for them and gave them a community they could be a part of.
So many of those types have nothing going on - no family, no careers, etc. - you see it a good bit on this board.
If Trump doesn't run again after 2024 then these people won't have much going for them in their lives
Posted on 12/5/23 at 6:44 pm to jlnoles79
You should be more mad at DeSantis. How has he not gained more popularity and taken over the party?
Posted on 12/5/23 at 6:45 pm to jlnoles79
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If Trump doesn't run again after 2024 then these people won't have much going for them in their lives
They'll migrate to something else. It's why we see so many former Dem voters enthusiastic by Trump being led around by former Obama proponent grifters now claiming the Trump banner.
If nothing else the Trump era completely demolished any idea that people on the purported "right" are by and large more substantive than those on the left. The backbone of the Trump movement are instagram and twitter influencers.
Posted on 12/5/23 at 6:47 pm to stout
All he had to do was wait until 2028 and he would have almost undivided support.
Posted on 12/5/23 at 6:47 pm to lsuguy84
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You should be more mad at DeSantis. How has he not gained more popularity and taken over the party?
I don't think anything was going to work after Dems got involved with all the charges. They knew exactly what would happen if they turned Trump into a victim
Posted on 12/5/23 at 6:49 pm to LuckyTiger
we all said this since 2020
Posted on 12/5/23 at 6:50 pm to stout
This was obvious nearly 6 months ago. There was a window when someone could have maybe taken Trump’s feet from under him but no one with even a remote chance has emerged. I
Posted on 12/5/23 at 6:52 pm to Pettifogger
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If nothing else the Trump era completely demolished any idea that people on the purported "right" are by and large more substantive than those on the left. The backbone of the Trump movement are instagram and twitter influencers
Media/infotainment on the right has been consumed by grifters
It will be interesting to see if/how they explain themselves after the inevitable landslide loss happens.
Posted on 12/5/23 at 6:53 pm to stout
The many said to wait until 2028 and he would get the votes then.
He did not listen.
He did not listen.
Posted on 12/5/23 at 6:53 pm to stout
He underestimated the fealty of the cult
Posted on 12/5/23 at 6:53 pm to jlnoles79
So who on the right would win, then?
Posted on 12/5/23 at 6:54 pm to Bunk Moreland
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If Trump loses, he is one of the only decent options going forward to try to fuse these groups.
Much of the Trump trash will tune out of politics permanently when Trump loses again and/or his feeble heart goes out
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